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Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference

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On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> What does it mean to say that a language is "small"?
>
> A Turing Machine is a pretty small language, with only a few
> instructions: step forward, step backwards, erase a cell, write a cell,
> branch on the state of the cell. And yet anything that can be computed,
> anything at all, can be computed by a Turning Machine...

Ook has only three tokens (okay, it's a derivative of BrainF** so it
kinda has eight, but they're implemented on three). It's
Turing-complete, but it is so small as to be useless for any practical
purposes. The ONLY way to use Ook for any useful code would be to
write an interpreter for another language in it, and use that other
language.

However, Ook can be proven to be flawless, as can an Ook interpreter,
much more easily than a full-featured language like Python or C.

ChrisA

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Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Travis Parks <jehugaleahsa@gmail.com> - 2011-11-20 16:46 -0800
  Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 13:33 +1100
    Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-11-21 05:44 +0000
      Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 17:48 +1100
      Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-21 10:03 -0800
      Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Travis Parks <jehugaleahsa@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 16:07 -0800
  Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2011-11-22 13:37 -0500
    Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Travis Parks <jehugaleahsa@gmail.com> - 2011-11-25 02:55 -0800
      Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-25 22:10 +1100
  Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-11-25 09:11 -0800
    RE: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference "Sells, Fred" <fred.sells@adventistcare.org> - 2011-11-25 23:22 -0500
    Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Matt Joiner <anacrolix@gmail.com> - 2011-11-26 23:19 +1100
  Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Alec Taylor <alec.taylor6@gmail.com> - 2011-11-27 05:46 +1100
  Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2011-11-26 10:53 -0800
    Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-27 06:34 +1100
      Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2011-11-26 13:15 -0800
    Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Travis Parks <jehugaleahsa@gmail.com> - 2011-11-27 14:21 -0800
      Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Colin Higwell <colinh@somewhere.invalid> - 2011-11-27 23:02 +0000
      Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-11-27 23:55 +0000
        Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 11:26 +1100
        Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Travis Parks <jehugaleahsa@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 10:03 -0800
        Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 12:32 -0700
          Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-11-28 20:20 +0000
            Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-11-29 09:48 +1300
              Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-11-28 21:11 +0000
          Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Travis Parks <jehugaleahsa@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 13:34 -0800
          Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-11-28 22:24 +0000
            Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-29 09:48 +1100
            Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Travis Parks <jehugaleahsa@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 18:42 -0800
              Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-29 13:57 +1100
                Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-11-29 08:12 +0000
                Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2011-11-29 03:53 -0500
              Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 21:56 -0700
        Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference DevPlayer <devplayer@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 16:54 -0800
          Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference DevPlayer <devplayer@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 16:59 -0800
          Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-29 12:49 +1100
            Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Travis Parks <jehugaleahsa@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 19:00 -0800
            Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-11-29 08:04 +0000
              Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference DevPlayer <devplayer@gmail.com> - 2011-12-01 10:03 -0800
                Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-12-02 00:43 +0000
                Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-12-02 13:02 +1100
                RE: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference "Sells, Fred" <fred.sells@adventistcare.org> - 2011-12-02 15:29 -0500
                Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2011-12-02 15:58 -0500
      Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-11-29 09:40 +1300
        Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Travis Parks <jehugaleahsa@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 13:29 -0800
          Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-29 08:57 +1100
          Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-11-28 22:57 +0000
            Re: Using the Python Interpreter as a Reference Travis Parks <jehugaleahsa@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 18:57 -0800

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