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Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux.

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On Nov 21, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Matthew Lenz wrote:

> Another thing I noticed is that the & and | appear to give the same result as adding or subtracting 128 from the ordinal value.  I'm assuming that isn't coincidence. :)

It's not, though the difference is important.  They're binary ANDs (&) and ORs (|), so (0x0F | 0x80) = 0x8F, but (0x8F | 0x80) = 0x8F as well, whereas (0x8F + 0x80) = 0x10F.  For manipulating bit values (which is what you're doing, you should almost never be adding or subtracting, but rather ANDing and ORing (or XORing, but not nearly as often).

Just in case you're not familiar, 0x is the prefix for a hexadecimal number. 0x80 = 128, which is binary 10000000 (i.e. the high bit in a byte).


- Dave

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Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. mlenz@nocturnal.org - 2011-11-21 06:00 -0800
  Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 06:16 -0800
  Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Nizamov Shawkat <nizamov.shawkat@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 15:26 +0100
    Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 08:28 -0800
      Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-22 03:41 +1100
      Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. David Riley <fraveydank@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 11:47 -0500
        Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 08:52 -0800
        Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 08:52 -0800
          Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. David Riley <fraveydank@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 12:22 -0500
            Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 09:59 -0800
            Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 09:59 -0800
              Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. David Riley <fraveydank@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 13:12 -0500
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      Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. David Riley <fraveydank@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 12:50 -0500
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  Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. gene heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2011-11-21 13:33 -0500
    Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 11:29 -0800
      Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-21 19:42 +0000
    Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 11:29 -0800
      Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. David Riley <fraveydank@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 15:42 -0500
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