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Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux.

From Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux.
Date 2011-11-21 23:08 +0000
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On 2011-11-21, David Riley <fraveydank@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Matthew Lenz wrote:
>
>> Another thing I noticed is that the & and | appear to give the same result as adding or subtracting 128 from the ordinal value.  I'm assuming that isn't coincidence. :)
>
> It's not, though the difference is important.  They're binary ANDs (&) and ORs (|), so (0x0F | 0x80) = 0x8F, but (0x8F | 0x80) = 0x8F as well, whereas (0x8F + 0x80) = 0x10F.  For manipulating bit values (which is what you're doing, you should almost never be adding or subtracting, but rather ANDing and ORing (or XORing, but not nearly as often).
>
> Just in case you're not familiar, 0x is the prefix for a hexadecimal number. 0x80 = 128, which is binary 10000000 (i.e. the high bit in a byte).

Like the old joke:

  There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand
  binary numbers, and those who don't.

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Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. mlenz@nocturnal.org - 2011-11-21 06:00 -0800
  Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 06:16 -0800
  Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Nizamov Shawkat <nizamov.shawkat@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 15:26 +0100
    Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 08:28 -0800
      Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-22 03:41 +1100
      Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. David Riley <fraveydank@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 11:47 -0500
        Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 08:52 -0800
        Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 08:52 -0800
          Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. David Riley <fraveydank@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 12:22 -0500
            Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 09:59 -0800
            Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 09:59 -0800
              Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. David Riley <fraveydank@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 13:12 -0500
          Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-11-21 18:20 +0000
      Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. gene heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2011-11-21 12:25 -0500
      Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. David Riley <fraveydank@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 12:50 -0500
    Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 08:28 -0800
  Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. gene heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2011-11-21 13:33 -0500
    Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 11:29 -0800
      Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-21 19:42 +0000
    Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Matthew Lenz <matthew@nocturnal.org> - 2011-11-21 11:29 -0800
      Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. David Riley <fraveydank@gmail.com> - 2011-11-21 15:42 -0500
        Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-21 23:08 +0000
          Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-11-21 23:09 +0000
            Re: Non-POSIX parity (mark/space) with Python-Serial on Linux. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-22 11:32 +1100

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