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On 11/16/2011 12:55 PM, Michael Hunter wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Dave Angel<d@davea.name>  wrote:
>> On 11/16/2011 12:00 PM, Jack Keegan wrote:
>> [...] Processes [...] and the OS is generally better at scheduling them than it is at
>> scheduling threads within a single process.  If you have multiple cores, the
>> processes can really run simultaneously, frequently with very small
>> overhead.  [...]
>
> Maybe you are trying to simplify things but in a lot of cases this is
> just false.  In at least some operating systems these days a thread is
> the basic unit that is scheduled.  Processes are thread containers
> that provide other things (fds, separate address space, etc.).  The
> comment about multiple cores can be extended to multiple threads on a
> core (CMT) but applies to threads as well as processes.  Switching
> between processes tends to be heavier weight then switching between
> threads in a process because of the needs to change the address space.
>
> Just because Python sucks at threads doesn't make them heavier for the OS.
>
> That doesn't mean you shouldn't use multiprocessing.  The problem
> asked about seems a good fit to me to a single python process starting
> and managing a set of external converter processes.
>
>                Michael
>

No response is deserved.

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Multiple threads Eduardo Oliva <dutche@gmail.com> - 2011-11-16 05:48 -0800
  Re: Multiple threads Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-11-17 00:55 +1100
  Re: Multiple threads Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2011-11-16 15:07 +0100
  Re: Multiple threads Christian Heimes <lists@cheimes.de> - 2011-11-16 16:01 +0100
  Re: Multiple threads Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2011-11-16 17:45 +0100
    Re: Multiple threads Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2011-11-16 16:38 -0800
  Re: Multiple threads Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2011-11-16 12:27 -0500
  Re: Multiple threads Michael Hunter <tahoemph@gmail.com> - 2011-11-16 09:55 -0800
  Re: Multiple threads Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2011-11-16 13:06 -0500
  Re: Multiple threads Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2011-11-16 13:30 -0500
  Re: Multiple threads Miki Tebeka <miki.tebeka@gmail.com> - 2011-11-16 12:50 -0800

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