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Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS

Date 2013-11-16 23:07 +0100
From Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be>
Subject Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS
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Op 16-11-13 22:44, Mark Lawrence schreef:
> On 16/11/2013 21:26, Antoon Pardon wrote:
>>
>> Please don't encourage our Help Vampire. I know this is generally a
>> welcoming community that is generous with its expertise, even if
>> someone asks questions beyond python. But Nikos abuses that generousity
>> which angers and frustrates a lot of people and generates a lot of
>> hostility here.
>>
>> So we need people not to encourage Nikos and that means being rather
>> less friendly with him than with others. So please ignore non
>> python questions from him. With respect to python questions: Don't
>> spoon feed him. Don't answer his questions for him or do his work for
>> him. Give him the information he needs to find things out himself,
>> preferably refer him to the documentation.
>>
> 
> Although I agree with the sentiments that you give above, I've come to 
> the conclusion that giving him anything is a complete waste of our time.
> Why answer his questions if he then states he doesn't want to do it that
> way?  Why refer him to documentation if he refuses to read it?
> 
> I don't like saying this but I believe the only way to get any peace
> around here is to ignore him completely.  Surely by now he's way past
> his "three strikes and you're out" limit?

Well I personnaly tend to agree. However I fear that a number of persons
will always feel uncomfortable with ignoring Nikos completely. So I see
this as a compremise. Those who feel they can't completely ignore Nikos
can in this way still contribute in a way that doesn't encourage the
help vampiristic behaviour.

And maybem just maybe if enough people only refer him to the documentation
Nikos will finally start reading them.

-- 
Antoon Pardon

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PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 08:03 -0800
  Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-16 08:07 -0800
    Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 08:09 -0800
      Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-16 16:18 +0000
        Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 08:30 -0800
          Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS YBM <ybmess@nooos.fr.invalid> - 2013-11-16 17:46 +0100
            Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Nikos <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-11-16 19:00 +0200
              Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-16 09:02 -0800
                Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-16 17:24 +0000
              Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS YBM <ybmess@nooos.fr.invalid> - 2013-11-16 20:46 +0100
                Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-16 12:13 -0800
            Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Nikos <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-11-16 19:14 +0200
              Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-16 09:20 -0800
            Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Nikos <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-11-17 11:12 +0200
              Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-11-17 03:50 -0800
              Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS YBM <ybmess@nooos.fr.invalid> - 2013-11-17 13:30 +0100
                Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-17 04:34 -0800
                Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-17 12:45 +0000
                Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-17 04:57 -0800
                Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-17 13:07 +0000
                Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-11-17 14:33 +0100
  Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-11-16 15:02 -0600
    Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Nikos <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-11-17 11:15 +0200
  Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-16 21:20 +0000
  Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-11-16 22:26 +0100
  Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-16 21:44 +0000
  Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-11-16 23:07 +0100
  Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS xDog Walker <thudfoo@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 08:24 -0800
  Re: PYTHON 3.4 LEFTOVERS PyRate <pyrate@email.cz> - 2013-11-16 17:26 +0100

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