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| From | Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Subject | Re: Automation |
| Date | 2013-11-15 21:01 -0500 |
| Organization | IISS Elusive Unicorn |
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On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 19:28:45 -0600, Tim Chase
<python.list@tim.thechases.com> declaimed the following:
>On 2013-11-15 13:43, xDog Walker wrote:
>> On Friday 2013 November 15 06:58, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> > There are people (not many in this group) who grew up speaking
>> > English and really ought to apologize for their writing -- but
>> > they never do.
>>
>> Can you supply an example of the form such an apology might take?
>
>"I'm sorry that, despite growing up steeped in the language, I can't
>manage to put together two coherent thoughts or practically apply any
>of the spelling/grammar/punctuation/capitalization lessons provided
>at no cost to me throughout 12+ years of academic instruction."
>
>Harumph. Non-native speakers get my extensive compassion--English
>really is a nutso language, and any attempt to use it for
>communicating should be lauded in the face of that challenge.
>However, native speakers have a higher bar, IHMO.
>
Given that "English" contains remnants of latin (from the Roman
occupation), saxons (a germanic tribe), angles (another germanic tribe),
danish (after the joining of the anglo-saxon), other vikings (norse), then
the norman invasion (which was a mix of norse and old french), etc. -- the
overlapping of orthographic elements is no surprise.
Oh, and add in the Great Vowel Shift
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift
At least we don't (nominally) have the situation of Mandarin vs
Cantonese (in which the spoken languages are quite different, but the
written pictographs are common, as I recall) [No... Instead we get the
different occidental phonemes for Chinese [and nearby]: Peking vs Beijing;
[nearby] Bombay vs Mumbai...]
>-tkc
>
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
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Re: Automation Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-03 23:32 +0000
Re: Automation Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-04 11:39 +0000
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Re: Automation Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-15 06:25 +0000
Re: Automation Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-11-15 16:53 +0000
Re: Automation Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-11-15 20:12 +0000
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Re: Automation Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-11-19 01:53 -0700
Re: Automation Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-20 16:12 +0000
Re: Automation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-19 20:26 +1100
Re: Automation Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-11-19 02:37 -0700
Re: Automation Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-19 09:44 +0000
Re: Automation Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-19 09:54 +0000
Re: Automation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-19 21:48 +1100
Re: Automation Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-20 16:14 +0000
Re: Automation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-21 03:19 +1100
Re: Automation Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2013-11-20 16:28 +0000
Re: Automation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-21 03:33 +1100
Re: Automation Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> - 2013-11-20 16:59 +0000
Re: Automation Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-20 21:34 +0000
Re: Automation Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-20 17:58 -0500
Off-topic: Aussie place names [was Re: Automation] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-21 00:58 +0000
Re: Off-topic: Aussie place names [was Re: Automation] Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-20 22:22 -0500
Re: Off-topic: Aussie place names [was Re: Automation] Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney@gmail.com> - 2013-11-21 12:18 +1100
Re: Automation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-19 21:50 +1100
Re: Automation Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-19 13:50 +0000
Re: Automation Tim Golden <mail@timgolden.me.uk> - 2013-11-19 13:55 +0000
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Re: Automation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-20 01:08 +1100
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Re: Automation Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-11-19 13:00 +0000
Re: Automation Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-11-19 12:59 +0000
Re: Automation Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-11-19 12:59 +0000
Re: Automation MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-11-19 15:06 +0000
Re: Automation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-20 02:11 +1100
Re: Automation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-21 02:44 +1100
Re: Automation Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-11-19 13:00 +0000
Re: Automation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-21 01:52 +1100
Re: Automation Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-15 06:44 +0000
Re: Automation Paul Rudin <paul.nospam@rudin.co.uk> - 2013-11-15 07:30 +0000
Re: Automation Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-15 15:02 +0000
Re: Automation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 02:12 +1100
Re: Automation Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-11-15 15:52 +0000
Re: Automation Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2013-11-15 22:17 -0800
Re: Automation William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-11-16 09:18 -0500
Re: Automation Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-16 10:11 -0500
grammar (was Re: Automation) Paul Smith <paul@mad-scientist.net> - 2013-11-16 12:02 -0500
Re: grammar (was Re: Automation) Andrew Berg <robotsondrugs@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 21:44 -0600
Re: grammar (was Re: Automation) MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-11-17 04:07 +0000
Re: grammar (was Re: Automation) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-17 15:16 +1100
Re: grammar (was Re: Automation) Andrew Berg <robotsondrugs@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 22:34 -0600
Re: grammar (was Re: Automation) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-17 12:48 -0500
Re: grammar (was Re: Automation) Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-19 04:13 +0000
Re: Automation Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-11-18 12:17 +0000
Re: Automation Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2013-11-19 19:23 +1300
Re: Automation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-19 07:09 +0000
Re: Automation Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-18 16:49 +0000
Re: Automation David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com> - 2013-11-18 22:54 -0500
Re: Automation Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-15 14:23 +0000
Re: Automation Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-15 18:54 -0500
Re: Automation Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-11-15 14:58 +0000
Re: Automation xDog Walker <thudfoo@gmail.com> - 2013-11-15 13:43 -0800
Re: Automation Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-11-15 19:28 -0600
Re: Automation Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-11-15 21:01 -0500
Re: Automation Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-16 11:42 +0000
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