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On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 19:28:45 -0600, Tim Chase
<python.list@tim.thechases.com> declaimed the following:

>On 2013-11-15 13:43, xDog Walker wrote:
>> On Friday 2013 November 15 06:58, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> > There are people (not many in this group) who grew up speaking
>> > English and really ought to apologize for their writing -- but
>> > they never do.  
>> 
>> Can you supply an example of the form such an apology might take?
>
>"I'm sorry that, despite growing up steeped in the language, I can't
>manage to put together two coherent thoughts or practically apply any
>of the spelling/grammar/punctuation/capitalization lessons provided
>at no cost to me throughout 12+ years of academic instruction."
>
>Harumph.  Non-native speakers get my extensive compassion--English
>really is a nutso language, and any attempt to use it for
>communicating should be lauded in the face of that challenge.
>However, native speakers have a higher bar, IHMO.
>

	Given that "English" contains remnants of latin (from the Roman
occupation), saxons (a germanic tribe), angles (another germanic tribe),
danish (after the joining of the anglo-saxon), other vikings (norse), then
the norman invasion (which was a mix of norse and old french), etc. -- the
overlapping of orthographic elements is no surprise.

	Oh, and add in the Great Vowel Shift
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift

	At least we don't (nominally) have the situation of Mandarin vs
Cantonese (in which the spoken languages are quite different, but the
written pictographs are common, as I recall) [No... Instead we get the
different occidental phonemes for Chinese [and nearby]: Peking vs Beijing;
[nearby] Bombay vs Mumbai...]

>-tkc
>
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