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Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness

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From Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Date Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:50:11 -0600
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On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:02:34 -0600, Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
> declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
>> On my wishlist for Python is a big, fat SyntaxError for any variable
>> that could be interpreted as either local or nonlocal and is not
>> explicitly declared as either.  It would eliminate this sort of
>> confusion entirely and make code that shadows nonlocal variables much
>> more readable.
>>
>         Which now makes code dependent upon changes to some imported modules
> if someone is foolish enough to use the
>
>         from xyz import *
>
> notation...

It's already a SyntaxError to use a wildcard import anywhere other
than the module level, so its use can only affect global variables.

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Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2012-10-19 11:21 +0200
  Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-19 22:14 +0000
    Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-10-19 20:23 -0400
      Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-10-20 14:18 +0000
        Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-10-20 15:10 -0400
        Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> - 2012-10-20 20:02 +0000
        Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com> - 2012-10-20 16:02 -0400
        Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-21 08:07 +0000
          Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-21 20:20 +1100
            Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-21 10:00 +0000
              Re: printing (was: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness) Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-10-21 06:03 -0500
              Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-21 22:43 +1100
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-21 19:11 +0000
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-10-21 19:23 +0000
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-10-21 16:19 -0400
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-22 07:38 +1100
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-22 07:22 +1100
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-22 06:30 +0000
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-22 18:03 +1100
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-10-22 08:29 -0400
                RE: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-10-22 20:48 +0000
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-10-22 16:02 -0600
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-10-22 21:39 -0400
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2012-10-23 08:35 +0100
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-10-23 10:50 -0600
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-23 22:34 +0000
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-10-23 17:24 -0600
                Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-24 00:04 +0000
          Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2012-10-21 07:08 -0400
          Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-10-21 12:42 -0400
        Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness DJC <djc@news.invalid> - 2012-10-21 15:06 +0100
    Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-10-19 22:27 -0500
      Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-10-20 00:35 -0700
    Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-10-20 16:37 -0400
      Re: A desperate lunge for on-topic-ness Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com> - 2012-10-21 21:58 +0000

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