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| From | Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com> |
|---|---|
| Subject | Re: python 3.3 repr |
| Date | 2013-11-15 15:39 +0000 |
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......... > > Dealing with bytes and Unicode is complicated, and the 2->3 transition is not easy, but let's please not spread the misunderstanding that somehow the Flexible String Representation is at fault. However you store Unicode code points, they are different than bytes, and it is complex having to deal with both. You can't somehow make the dichotomy go away, you can only choose where you want to think about it. > > --Ned. ....... I don't think that's what I said; the flexible representation is just an added complexity that has come about because of the wish to store strings in a compact way. The requirement for such complexity is the unicode type itself (especially the storage requirements) which necessitated some remedial action. There's no point in fighting the change to using unicode. The type wasn't required for any technical reason as other languages didn't go this route and are reasonably ok, but there's no doubt the change made things more difficult. -- Robin Becker
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python 3.3 repr Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com> - 2013-11-15 11:28 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-15 03:38 -0800
Re: python 3.3 repr Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com> - 2013-11-15 12:16 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-15 05:54 -0800
Re: python 3.3 repr Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com> - 2013-11-15 14:29 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2013-11-15 16:40 +0200
Re: python 3.3 repr Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com> - 2013-11-15 14:52 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-15 09:25 -0500
Re: python 3.3 repr Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com> - 2013-11-15 14:43 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-15 07:08 -0800
Re: python 3.3 repr Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com> - 2013-11-15 15:39 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-11-15 16:49 +0100
Re: python 3.3 repr Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 03:01 +1100
Re: python 3.3 repr Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-11-15 17:47 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-16 01:09 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-15 17:10 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 04:29 +1100
Re: python 3.3 repr Cousin Stanley <cousinstanley@gmail.com> - 2013-11-15 10:45 -0700
Re: python 3.3 repr Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-15 09:50 -0500
Re: python 3.3 repr Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com> - 2013-11-15 15:03 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-11-15 10:07 -0500
Re: python 3.3 repr Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 02:08 +1100
Re: python 3.3 repr Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com> - 2013-11-15 15:18 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-11-15 10:32 -0500
Re: python 3.3 repr William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-11-15 11:30 -0500
Re: python 3.3 repr Zero Piraeus <z@etiol.net> - 2013-11-15 14:06 -0300
Re: python 3.3 repr Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-16 04:11 +1100
Re: python 3.3 repr Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2013-11-15 19:37 +0200
Re: python 3.3 repr Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-11-15 11:36 -0500
Re: python 3.3 repr Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-15 17:58 +0000
Re: python 3.3 repr Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-11-15 14:23 -0500
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