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Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a

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On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Denis McMahon
<denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:17:22 +0200, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>
>> root@secure [/home/nikos/www/cgi-bin]# python3 -V Python 3.4.0a4
>
> Let me just check.
>
> Nobody is so stupid as to run alpha software on a production server[1]
> are they?
>
> [1] In this context, "production server" means any system facing the
> public internet upon which python code is executed in response to inputs
> from the public internet.

I don't know that that's necessarily stupid. For a lot of my work,
I've been using a trunk version of Pike (7.9.11 currently), and if I
were working more heavily with Python on my servers, I would consider
using alpha versions if there were features that I wanted (or fixes
that I needed). It's not stupid, but it does require a "hand on the
tiller" so to speak; running alpha code - or, for that matter, any
code you compiled yourself - in production means taking responsibility
for it. I'm confident of my own ability to keep up with changes, but
for most people, I would strongly recommend taking, in order: (1) the
Python that your distro provides; (2) a python.org published stable
version; (3) a preproduction (eg RC) version; and finally (4) anything
else, including straight from Mercurial. The further down that list
you go, the more work you have to do yourself to ensure compatibility,
dependency management, etcetera.

ChrisA

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Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 16:17 +0200
  Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 16:21 +0200
  Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 15:23 +0100
    Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 16:26 +0200
      Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-13 15:59 +0000
    Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 16:28 +0200
  Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-13 16:13 +0000
    Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 18:38 +0200
      Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-13 09:29 -0800
        Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-14 02:51 +0000
      Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 18:45 +0100
        Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 23:19 +0200
          Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Johannes Findeisen <mailman@hanez.org> - 2013-11-13 22:30 +0100
            Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 23:39 +0200
              Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-13 13:44 -0800
                Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-13 23:52 +0200
              Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-13 21:56 +0000
                Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-14 00:00 +0200
                Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-13 22:32 +0000
                Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-11-13 16:57 -0800
                Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-14 01:10 +0000
                Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-14 02:55 +0000
                Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-14 19:12 +0000
                Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-15 10:23 +1100
                Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Johannes Findeisen <mailman@hanez.org> - 2013-11-14 01:54 +0100
                Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-11-14 12:22 +0200
  Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-11-14 01:14 +0000
    Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-14 12:27 +1100
      Using alpha software in production [was Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-14 02:00 +0000
        Re: Using alpha software in production [was Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-14 13:17 +1100
  Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Nick the Gr33k <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-11-14 15:50 +0200
    Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-11-15 00:57 +1100
    Re: Trying tcompile an use the Python 3.4a Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> - 2013-11-14 11:28 -0800

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