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Re: Case Statements

From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Case Statements
Date 2016-03-17 17:30 +1100
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On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Gregory Ewing
<greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> wrote:
> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:31 am, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>>    orig = globals()[cls.__name__]
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't want to rely on it working with decorator syntax either. Even
>> if
>> it does now, I'm not sure that's a language guarantee.
>
>
> The following idiom relies on similar behaviour:
>
>     @property
>     def x(self):
>         return self._x
>
>     @x.setter
>     def x(self, value):
>         self._x = value
>
> That's taken from the official docs, so I don't think
> this is likely to change any time soon.

Ooh, didn't think of that. So maybe it's a language guarantee that
hasn't been written down somewhere, and the "func = deco(func)"
version is a known-imperfect-equivalent, same as "for x in iter: yield
x" is an imperfect equivalent for "yield from iter".

It would be possible to support @x.setter by simply guaranteeing that
the decorator expression is evaluated prior to the function creation:

_tmp = x.setter # but without using an actual name
def x(self, value):
    self._x = value
x = _tmp(x)

But I doubt the language needs to go to this level of finickiness. In
fact, all it really needs is an acknowledgement that there are corner
cases:

http://bugs.python.org/issue26576

ChrisA

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Case Statements jj0gen0info@gmail.com - 2016-03-15 13:46 -0700
  Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 23:11 +0000
  Re: Case Statements jj0gen0info@gmail.com - 2016-03-15 16:47 -0700
    Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 23:58 +0000
    Re: Case Statements BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-16 00:51 +0000
      Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 01:05 +0000
  Re: Case Statements jj0gen0info@gmail.com - 2016-03-15 18:55 -0700
    Re: Case Statements "Mario R. Osorio" <nimbiotics@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 21:06 -0700
      Re: Case Statements BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-16 10:34 +0000
        Re: Case Statements Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-16 23:56 +1100
    Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 04:26 +0000
      Re: Case Statements Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2016-03-16 09:13 +0100
        Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 08:47 +0000
        Re: Case Statements Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-16 11:16 +0200
        Re: Case Statements Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-03-16 10:35 +0100
        Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 09:51 +0000
          Re: Case Statements BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-16 19:41 +0000
            Re: Case Statements BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-16 22:30 +0000
        Re: Case Statements Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-03-16 11:52 +0100
        Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 11:07 +0000
          Re: Case Statements BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-16 11:16 +0000
            Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 11:33 +0000
            Re: Case Statements Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-16 14:21 +0200
              Re: Case Statements BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-16 12:53 +0000
                Re: Case Statements Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-16 16:31 +0200
                Re: Case Statements BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-16 15:00 +0000
                Re: Case Statements Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-16 19:07 +0200
              Re: Case Statements Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-03-20 01:01 -0700
                Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-20 08:29 +0000
        Re: Case Statements Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-03-16 14:38 +0100
        Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 14:02 +0000
        Re: Case Statements Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-16 21:27 +0200
          Re: Case Statements Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-03-17 09:22 +0100
            Re: Case Statements Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-17 10:57 +0200
              Re: Case Statements Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-03-17 10:12 +0100
        Re: Case Statements Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-17 11:19 +1100
          Re: Case Statements Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-17 12:54 +1100
            Re: Case Statements Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-03-17 18:45 +1300
              Re: Case Statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 17:30 +1100
                Re: Case Statements Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-03-18 18:59 +1300
              Re: Case Statements Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-17 17:29 +1100
                Re: Case Statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 17:48 +1100
                Re: Case Statements Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-17 21:53 +1100
                Re: Case Statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 22:49 +1100
            Re: Case Statements Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-03-17 10:23 +0100
            Re: Case Statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 20:55 +1100
          Re: Case Statements Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-03-17 09:36 +0100
        Re: Case Statements Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2016-03-17 09:38 +0100
  Re: Case Statements l0r0m0a0i0l@gmail.com - 2016-03-16 06:15 -0700
    Re: Case Statements Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-17 00:27 +1100
      Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 14:00 +0000
    Re: Case Statements Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-16 13:59 +0000
  Re: Case Statements l0r0m0a0i0l@gmail.com - 2016-03-16 07:21 -0700
    Re: Case Statements Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-16 16:33 +0200

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