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Re: is implemented with id ?

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From Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Date Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:08:43 -0600
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 8:13 AM, Steven D'Aprano
<steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
> You *cannot* replace is with id() except when the objects are guaranteed
> to both be alive at the same time, and even then you *shouldn't* replace
> is with id() because that is a pessimation (the opposite of an
> optimization -- something that makes code run slower, not faster).

Shouldn't that be "pessimization" for symmetry?

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  Re: is implemented with id ? Benjamin Kaplan <benjamin.kaplan@case.edu> - 2012-09-04 23:40 -0700
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        Re: is implemented with id ? aahz@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) - 2012-11-03 12:41 -0700
          Re: is implemented with id ? Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-11-03 22:49 +0100
            Re: is implemented with id ? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-03 22:18 +0000
              Re: is implemented with id ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-04 09:50 +1100
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                Re: is implemented with id ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-04 14:19 +1100
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                Re: is implemented with id ? Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-11-04 11:13 +0100
              Re: is implemented with id ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-11-04 12:22 +1100
              Re: is implemented with id ? aahz@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) - 2012-11-03 22:08 -0700
            Re: is implemented with id ? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-11-03 18:41 -0400
            Re: is implemented with id ? aahz@pythoncraft.com (Aahz) - 2012-11-03 22:12 -0700
      Re: is implemented with id ? Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-09-05 10:00 -0400
        Re: is implemented with id ? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-05 14:41 +0000
          Re: is implemented with id ? Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-09-05 11:09 -0400
            Re: is implemented with id ? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-05 15:36 +0000
            Re: is implemented with id ? Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-09-05 18:47 +0200
              Re: is implemented with id ? Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-09-05 13:19 -0400
          Re: is implemented with id ? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-05 14:31 -0400
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          Re: is implemented with id ? Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-06 09:34 +0000
            Re: is implemented with id ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-06 19:50 +1000
          Re: is implemented with id ? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-11-04 01:33 -0700
  Re: is implemented with id ? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-05 09:14 +0000
    Re: is implemented with id ? Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-09-05 05:48 -0700
      Re: is implemented with id ? Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-09-05 09:46 -0400
      Re: is implemented with id ? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-05 14:13 +0000
        Re: is implemented with id ? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-09-05 11:08 -0600
        Re: is implemented with id ? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-09-06 19:07 +1000
      Re: is implemented with id ? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-09-05 14:27 -0400
        Re: is implemented with id ? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-09-06 06:44 +0000
          Re: is implemented with id ? Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-09-06 01:24 -0700
          Re: is implemented with id ? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-09-06 08:16 -0400
            Re: is implemented with id ? Ramchandra Apte <maniandram01@gmail.com> - 2012-09-06 06:30 -0700
      Re: is implemented with id ? Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-09-05 14:40 -0400

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