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Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python"

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On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 14:55:24 -0400, Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com>
declaimed the following:

>Then it seems to me that work in the direction should be an active feature 
>request.  Unforch, as I've said before, I'm rowing this barge with a 
>toothpick for an oar. :)
>
>I would be interesting to see if the "bait" is taken. :)
>
	Unfortunately, I see that as a requiring a change at the OS level.

	Even on the OS that REXX was developed upon, my books give a strong
hint that the only application that was readily "address app" compatible
was a text editor. ARexx piggy-backed on the underlying linked list
messages on "findable" message ports.

	Until the OS supports a multiple writer IPC with return addressing in
an easy API, it's unlikely to be created. UDP/IP might be a way -- but UDP
has that nasty unreliability factor. Amiga message ports had guaranteed
delivery (as long as the receiving process read the queued messages; and
VMS mailboxes were similar).

	Multiple writer -- as any process could send messages to the single
receiving port; it wasn't a socket server style where connection requests
on a single port would be assigned a distinct port subsequent usage.

	Then again, the Amiga auto-config for boards pre-dates the PCI-express
configuration system, which is very similar.

-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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            Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 10:40 -0700
              Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 10:51 -0700
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              Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-09-22 12:44 -0400
            Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-09-20 22:31 -0400
              Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-21 12:54 +1000
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  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-21 00:26 +1000
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 09:23 -0700
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Jugurtha Hadjar <jugurtha.hadjar@gmail.com> - 2013-09-20 18:07 +0100
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-09-20 18:26 -0400
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-09-22 14:55 -0400
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-09-22 15:48 -0400
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  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2013-09-23 19:34 -0700
  Re: What minimum should a person know before saying "I know Python" Schneider <js@globe.de> - 2013-09-26 12:16 +0200

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