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| From | Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Subject | Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ |
| Date | 2012-07-23 14:10 -0400 |
| Organization | > Bestiaria Support Staff < |
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:42:51 +0200, Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net>
declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
>
> If that was written by my coworkers, I'd strangle them.
>
My first real assignment, 31 years ago, was porting an application
to CDC MP-60 FORTRAN (what I called "FORTRAN MINUS TWO"). This was a
minimal FORTRAN implementation in which one could not do things like:
ix = 20
call xyz(ix, ix+2, ix-2)
forcing us to produce such abominations as
ix = 20
jinx = ix + 2
minx = ix - 2
call xyz(ix, jinx, minx)
Now, when you take into consideration that this application,
purportedly a requirements traceability system, was only a few
functions* shy of being a (pre-SQL) relational database using a form of
relational algebra, and did lots of record<>disk-block^ packing, then
there were many calls to subprograms that needed things like block #,
record #, start&end bytes within record/blocks, with both source and
destination information needed.
* It needed a dynamic "project" operation; records contained a "format
ID" (formats were themselves stored in the "database") which identified
the layout of the data in the record. A dynamic "project" operation
would have to build a format from the specifications of the desired
fields. It also would have needed a simple join operation (also
dynamically creating a format for the result set).
^ The MP-60 did not make that easy either... The F-2 did not have direct
access I/O, so one had to use OS services to position to "block #" of a
file, and then perform the FORTRAN I/O operation. BUT: disk blocks were
512 bytes, but only around 488 bytes were available to the user -- the
OS stored something in the rest of the block. That meant we had to
change the program to work in 488 byte blocks, but to address the file
in 512 byte blocks.
My second major assignment was to maintain an application that had
been originally written (by a subcontractor) using preprocessor to
convert "C" style block statements into FORTRAN-IV (the only valid use
I've ever seen for the ASSIGNed GOTO -- emulating the return from
"subroutine" calls). I got to maintain the /output/ of the preprocessor
-- where programs were 3000-30000 lines of code in a single file, all
variables were global...
--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
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Re: the meaning of r¹.......?34 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-07-23 09:22 -0400
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Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 23:35 +1000
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Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 16:42 +0200
Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-23 14:10 -0400
Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 16:53 +0000
Re: the meaning of r?.......ï¾ MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-07-23 16:46 +0100
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Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2012-07-23 14:43 -0400
Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:26 +0200
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Re: the meaning of rﾕ.......ï¾ Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2012-07-23 12:19 -0400
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