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Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾

From Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾
Date 2012-07-23 12:19 -0400
Organization University of Waterloo
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Roy Smith  <roy@panix.com> wrote:
>When I first started writing C code, it was on ASR-33s which did not 
>support curly baces.  We wrote ¥( for { and ¥) for } (although I think the translation was 
>handled entirely in the TTY driver and the compiler was never in on the 
>joke).  20 or 30 years from now, people are going to look back on us 
>neanderthals and laugh about how we had to write r''.

No, it's not going to change in 20 or 30 years.  The ASR-33 Teletype
was pretty much obsolete by the time C escaped Bell Labs.  You were
programming in a 70's language using early 60's technology and suffered
accordingly.  Today, the technology to support "Unicode" operators in
programming langauges is both widespread and has existed for a long
time now.  I'm sure you've heard of APL, which both predates Unicode and
C and is almost old as the ASR-33.  If any one actually wanted another
programming language like this it would've come into existance 20 or 30
years ago not 20 or 30 years from now.

Python actually choose to go the other direction and choose to use
keywords as operators instead of symbols in a number of instances.

					Ross Ridge

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Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 17:59 +1000
  Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 08:07 +0000
    Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-07-23 08:55 -0400
      Re: the meaning of rユ.......�¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 23:06 +1000
        Re: the meaning of r¹.......?3Ž4 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-07-23 09:22 -0400
        Re: the meaning of rユ.......�¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 15:59 +0000
          Re: the meaning of rユ.......�¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 02:10 +1000
          Re: the meaning of r?.......?¾ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-23 16:46 -0400
          Re: the meaning of r`.......` Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-07-24 10:45 +0200
      Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Alex Strickland <sscc@mweb.co.za> - 2012-07-23 15:10 +0200
      Re: the meaning of rユ.......�¾ Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-07-23 09:22 -0400
        Re: the meaning of rユ.......�¾ Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2012-07-24 00:01 -0700
      Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:24 +0200
        Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 23:35 +1000
          Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:52 +0200
            Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:55 +0200
              Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:59 +0200
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Alain Ketterlin <alain@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> - 2012-07-23 16:08 +0200
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-23 15:43 +0100
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 16:43 +0200
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-23 16:29 +0100
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2012-07-23 15:56 +0000
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 02:09 +1000
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-07-25 00:35 +1000
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 00:50 +1000
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Maarten <maarten.sneep@knmi.nl> - 2012-07-24 07:44 -0700
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-07-25 13:07 +1000
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 14:11 +1000
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-25 06:07 +0000
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-25 07:37 +0100
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2012-07-25 16:43 +1000
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-25 08:13 +0100
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 09:21 -0600
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 10:36 -0600
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-25 02:42 +1000
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-07-24 09:59 -0700
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 10:02 -0400
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 17:10 +0000
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 08:08 -0700
              Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Jan Riechers <janpeterr@freenet.de> - 2012-07-23 21:29 +0300
            Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 10:10 -0400
              Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 16:40 +0200
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 00:53 +1000
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 11:02 -0400
              Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 16:54 +0000
            Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 00:19 +1000
              Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 16:42 +0200
                Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-23 14:10 -0400
            Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 16:53 +0000
        Re: the meaning of r?.......ï¾ MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-07-23 16:46 +0100
        Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 16:33 +0000
          Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2012-07-23 14:43 -0400
      Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Henrik Faber <hfaber@invalid.net> - 2012-07-23 15:26 +0200
      Re: the meaning of r.......ïŸ Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-23 15:49 +0000
        Re: the meaning of r.......ïŸ Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2012-07-26 16:34 +0300
      Re: the meaning of rユ.......ï¾ Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2012-07-23 12:19 -0400
      Re: the meaning of r?.......?¾ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-23 13:44 -0400
  Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ John Roth <johnroth1@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 17:50 -0700
  Re: the meaning of r’.......‘ John Roth <johnroth1@gmail.com> - 2012-07-23 17:50 -0700

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