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Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny

From Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Subject Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny
Date 2012-07-15 06:27 -0400
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On 7/15/2012 4:32 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 10:49:48 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>> <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:
>>> Not necessarily *compile* time, but the distinction is between when the
>>> function is defined (which may at compile time, or it may be at run
>>> time) versus when the function is called.
>>
>> I'd treat the def/lambda statement as "compile time" and the () operator
>> as "run time".
>
> But function definitions occur at run time, not compile time -- they are
> executable statements, not instructions to the compiler to define a
> function.

The () operator is 'call time'. The main points are
a) the execution of def statements and lambda expressions and the 
execution of calls happen at different run times.
b) default arg objects are calculated at def/lambda time.
c) names in def bodies and lambda expressions are resolved at call time.
and
d) people more often forget c) when thinking about lambda expressions 
that for def statements.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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lambda in list comprehension acting funny Daniel Fetchinson <fetchinson@googlemail.com> - 2012-07-11 08:41 +0200
  Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny "Colin J. Williams" <cjw@ncf.ca> - 2012-07-11 06:28 -0400
    Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-07-11 10:34 -0600
      Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-07-11 20:39 -0700
        Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-12 03:51 +0000
          Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-07-11 22:04 -0700
            Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-12 06:18 +0000
              Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-07-12 08:40 +0100
      Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-07-11 20:39 -0700
  Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny woooee <woooee@gmail.com> - 2012-07-11 11:38 -0700
    Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2012-07-11 13:21 -0700
      Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-12 00:52 +0000
      Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-11 21:05 -0400
        Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-12 03:53 +0000
          Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-07-12 00:24 -0400
          Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-12 00:39 -0400
            Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Robert Miles <robertmiles@teranews.com> - 2012-08-15 19:26 -0500
      Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny John O'Hagan <research@johnohagan.com> - 2012-07-12 15:29 +1000
      Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2012-07-12 10:06 +0100
    Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-07-12 00:22 +0200
    Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-11 23:47 +0000
      Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Daniel Fetchinson <fetchinson@googlemail.com> - 2012-07-12 04:54 +0200
  Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-12 03:59 +0000
    Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-07-12 10:53 -0600
    Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Rotwang <sg552@hotmail.co.uk> - 2012-07-12 18:23 +0100
      Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-13 02:20 +0000
  Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-07-12 21:33 -0700
    Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-13 06:36 +0000
      Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-07-13 06:44 -0700
        Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-07-13 07:45 -0700
        RE: lambda in list comprehension acting funny "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-07-13 16:12 +0000
          Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-07-13 09:46 -0700
            Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-14 03:20 +1000
          Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-07-13 19:53 +0200
            RE: lambda in list comprehension acting funny "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-07-13 18:06 +0000
            Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-07-13 12:54 -0600
              Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-07-13 21:26 +0200
              Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-14 23:29 +0000
                Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-15 10:49 +1000
                Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-15 08:32 +0000
                Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-07-15 18:44 +1000
                Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-07-15 21:25 +0200
                Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-07-15 06:27 -0400
            Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-07-13 19:31 -0700
              Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-14 03:43 +0000
                Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-07-13 21:53 -0700
                Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-07-14 07:46 +0000
        Re: lambda in list comprehension acting funny Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-07-13 13:47 -0400

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