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Re: Continuing indentation

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Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> writes:

> On 05/03/16 00:23, Simon Ward wrote:
> > Style guides are always going to be considered incorrect by some
> > people, but they should aim more for consistency (the hobgoblin that
> > may be), which is what makes code easier to grok.
>
> So you're saying that it doesn't matter if something is good or bad,
> as long as it's consistently so?

That's not my reading of the above. “X more than Y” does not dismiss the
importance of Y.

> Am I not allowed to suggest that the style guide is wrong in what it
> suggests?

Certainly you are allowed. You should not expect that suggestion to be
compelling unless it is accompanied by *factual*, rather than emotive,
argument.

If the advantage is small, you need to accept that the small advantage
will be weighed against the high cost of a long period of inconsistency
with existing, currently-conformant, code. That may be enough to rule
out the option you are suggesting, because we're not starting from a
blank slate of no existing code.

You also need to accept that many choices in a good style guide *will*
be on the basis of choosing among many good options, and thereby exclude
a number of good options from that guide.

It doesn't make those options un-good, it just means that conforming to
the style guide excludes those options.

-- 
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  `\    luxury of an emotion without paying for it.” —Oscar Wilde, _De |
_o__)                                                 Profundis_, 1897 |
Ben Finney

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  Re: Continuing indentation Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-02 22:50 +0200
    Re: Continuing indentation Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2016-03-02 14:01 -0800
      Re: Continuing indentation Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-03 00:10 +0200
        Re: Continuing indentation Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 16:44 -0600
        Re: Continuing indentation Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2016-03-02 14:51 -0800
        Re: Continuing indentation Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2016-03-02 14:56 -0800
        Re: Continuing indentation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:46 +1100
        Re: Continuing indentation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-03 13:15 +1100
        Re: Continuing indentation John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2016-03-03 16:16 +0000
          Re: Continuing indentation Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-03 18:47 +0200
            Re: Continuing indentation Rob Gaddi <rgaddi@highlandtechnology.invalid> - 2016-03-03 18:06 +0000
              Re: Continuing indentation Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-03 21:36 +0200
            Re: Continuing indentation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-04 11:13 +1100
              Re: Continuing indentation INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 09:45 +0900
              Re: Continuing indentation Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2016-03-04 01:06 +0000
              Re: Continuing indentation INADA Naoki <songofacandy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 10:23 +0900
                Re: Continuing indentation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-04 14:48 +1100
                Re: Continuing indentation cl@isbd.net - 2016-03-04 10:12 +0000
                Re: Continuing indentation alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-03-04 14:03 +0000
                Re: Continuing indentation Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 08:25 -0700
                Re: Continuing indentation Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2016-03-04 09:36 -0800
                Re: Continuing indentation sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 13:14 -0800
                Re: Continuing indentation Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-04 21:20 +0000
                Re: Continuing indentation Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2016-03-04 23:31 +0000
                Re: Continuing indentation Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-04 23:45 +0000
                Re: Continuing indentation Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2016-03-04 15:53 -0800
                Re: Continuing indentation Simon Ward <simon+python@bleah.co.uk> - 2016-03-05 00:23 +0000
                Re: Continuing indentation sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 17:17 -0800
                Re: Continuing indentation Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2016-03-04 18:14 -0800
                Re: Continuing indentation Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-03-05 13:22 +1100
                Re: Continuing indentation Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2016-03-04 20:49 -0600
                Re: Continuing indentation srinivas devaki <mr.eightnoteight@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 10:25 +0530
                Re: Continuing indentation Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-03-05 16:10 +1100
                Re: Continuing indentation Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2016-03-05 00:52 +0000
                Re: Continuing indentation Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-03-05 12:05 +1100
                Re: Continuing indentation Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2016-03-05 01:45 +0000
                Re: Continuing indentation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-05 18:17 +1100
                Re: Continuing indentation alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-03-04 13:59 +0000
                Re: Continuing indentation Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-03-05 10:41 +1100
                Re: Continuing indentation sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2016-03-04 16:06 -0800
                Re: Continuing indentation Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-03-05 11:30 +1100
                Re: Continuing indentation Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2016-03-04 17:01 -0800
              Re: Continuing indentation Erik <python@lucidity.plus.com> - 2016-03-04 02:24 +0000
              Re: Continuing indentation Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-03-04 08:28 +0200
  Re: Continuing indentation codewizard@gmail.com - 2016-03-02 15:46 -0800
    Re: Continuing indentation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:54 +1100
      Re: Continuing indentation Pete Forman <petef4+usenet@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 00:23 +0000
    Re: Continuing indentation Carl Meyer <carl@oddbird.net> - 2016-03-02 17:02 -0700
      Re: Continuing indentation Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-03 13:22 +1100
        Re: Continuing indentation Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-03-03 13:30 +1100
        Re: Continuing indentation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 13:33 +1100
        Re: Continuing indentation Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2016-03-02 18:57 -0800
    Re: Continuing indentation Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-03-03 11:30 +1100
    Re: Continuing indentation cl@isbd.net - 2016-03-03 10:22 +0000

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