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Re: Abandoning Python

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Date Sun, 22 May 2011 12:25:21 +1100
Subject Re: Abandoning Python
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On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:49 AM, John J Lee <jjl@pobox.com> wrote:
> Here's my wishlist (not really in any order):

How come pony is not listed there? Language cannot be better than
python without pony!

>  * An even larger user base, contributing more and better free and
>   commercial software.

According to all language popularity indexes [1-10], C# and
Objective-C are only languages which have any chance to fulfill these
requirements, but they arguably less flexible than python and have
copyright/patent complications.
As there is rather heavy inertia in software development community,
expecting some language to acquire "even larger user base" is
hopeless.

Also, most of these complaints could be solved by using correct python
dialect for particular task - RPython, Cython and so on.

-- 
With best regards,
Daniel Kluev

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Abandoning Python John J Lee <jjl@pobox.com> - 2011-05-21 16:49 +0100
  Re: Abandoning Python John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> - 2011-05-21 11:00 -0500
  Re: Abandoning Python Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> - 2011-05-22 12:25 +1100
    Re: Abandoning Python John J Lee <jjl@pobox.com> - 2011-05-22 16:58 +0100
      Re: Abandoning Python Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2011-05-22 19:55 +0200
      Re: Abandoning Python John Lee <jjl@pobox.com> - 2011-05-22 18:26 +0000
  Re: Abandoning Python Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> - 2011-05-22 12:27 +1100
  Re: Abandoning Python John Lee <jjl@pobox.com> - 2011-05-22 17:11 +0000
  Re: Abandoning Python John Lee <jjl@pobox.com> - 2011-05-22 17:33 +0000
    Re: Abandoning Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-24 21:45 -0700
      Re: Abandoning Python harrismh777 <harrismh777@charter.net> - 2011-05-27 09:34 -0500
  Re: Abandoning Python John Lee <jjl@pobox.com> - 2011-05-22 21:01 +0000
  Re: Abandoning Python John Lee <jjl@pobox.com> - 2011-05-22 21:19 +0000
  Re: Abandoning Python Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> - 2011-05-23 10:16 +1100
  Re: Abandoning Python Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com> - 2011-05-23 11:45 +0100

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