Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!selfless.tophat.at!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.083 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.83; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'python': 0.08; 'indexes': 0.09; 'there?': 0.09; 'am,': 0.14; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.14; 'received:mail- iw0-f174.google.com': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'language': 0.18; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'community,': 0.22; 'software.': 0.26; 'correct': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; '(not': 0.28; 'received:209.85.214': 0.28; 'lee': 0.29; 'solved': 0.30; 'sun,': 0.30; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'rather': 0.34; 'daniel': 0.34; 'there': 0.35; 'complaints': 0.35; 'languages': 0.35; 'using': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'contributing': 0.37; 'could': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'user': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'listed': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'really': 0.40; 'more': 0.60; 'best': 0.60; 'john': 0.62; 'according': 0.63; 'free': 0.63; 'fulfill': 0.67; 'heavy': 0.68; 'commercial': 0.70; 'dialect': 0.84; 'pony': 0.84; 'popularity': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aBKqJc1Dpzovl3AHHKZxzl6e649L8E0eMyFz8nEuqXE=; b=Qj/Ow5dH7DdiClx9TrzxcDzMqGspuQx3kKx/M8h+NndbzVTUOCKyZR5p4YclcFpTJf QWyjeW8Qbd96EQsLE4JV2VdswyHmri7tXTZCdIaFk/OQWFnyKX9KryZ31wX3/wOYqy7S 3wwMQOwwz+eA1onM6JsUqqhmXq37MjcX5hKZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PfcAB0Xkuj+I7oLvhY0QpLtkIL7Ax0852PzmrbEuLGGIFnH3gorCpGodKY0XOVnGXM B3veYEsI7YADpHo+hguEgMQPzKraDi5agszeKDuVXX4IR1OphL5K+AX0pTv+uuwut4PS 5iYICXLs/7vXfEwegGoNUIH4PyxN/DZJtqM9c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87ipt46okh.fsf@pobox.com> References: <87ipt46okh.fsf@pobox.com> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 12:25:21 +1100 Subject: Re: Abandoning Python From: Daniel Kluev To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306027529 news.xs4all.nl 49174 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:57212 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:5946 On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:49 AM, John J Lee wrote: > Here's my wishlist (not really in any order): How come pony is not listed there? Language cannot be better than python without pony! > =A0* An even larger user base, contributing more and better free and > =A0 commercial software. According to all language popularity indexes [1-10], C# and Objective-C are only languages which have any chance to fulfill these requirements, but they arguably less flexible than python and have copyright/patent complications. As there is rather heavy inertia in software development community, expecting some language to acquire "even larger user base" is hopeless. Also, most of these complaints could be solved by using correct python dialect for particular task - RPython, Cython and so on. --=20 With best regards, Daniel Kluev