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Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements

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From Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Date Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:12:33 -0700
Subject Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements
To Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Rick Johnson
<rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, February 11, 2013 11:55:19 PM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM, 88888 Dihedral wrote:
>> > A permanently mutated list is a tuple of constant objects.
>>
>> I nominate this line as "bemusing head-scratcher of the week".
>
> Actually the statement is fact IF you can grok it through the eyes of clarity.
>
> "A permanently mutated list..."
>
> A list that has been mutated permanently, that is, it cannot be changed back into a list. psst: i have a sneaking suspicion that he his referring to tuples, let's see.

FYI, the general consensus here is that "he" (88888 Dihedral) is a
bot.  It posts in non sequiturs and fails to respond meaningfully to
direct queries.  A few months ago I posed an obvious Turing test for
it, which it failed.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/718489

Your naive effort to extort meaning from its nonsense is admirable, however.

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Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-07 22:16 -0800
  Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-02-07 23:27 -0700
    Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-07 22:32 -0800
    Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-07 22:32 -0800
  Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-02-09 02:16 +1100
    Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-08 09:48 -0800
      Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-02-08 12:58 -0500
      Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-08 11:58 -0800
        Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-09 11:05 +1100
          Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-08 16:49 -0800
            Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-09 12:17 +1100
              Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-09 20:54 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-10 16:04 +1100
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 04:28 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 23:50 +1100
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 05:28 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 00:52 +1100
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 20:24 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 20:24 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 05:28 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 04:28 -0800
              Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-09 20:54 -0800
            Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-02-08 18:29 -0700
            Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-09 16:01 +1100
              Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-09 20:26 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-10 15:50 +1100
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-10 18:09 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-10 18:09 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-02-10 22:37 +1100
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-02-10 09:45 -0500
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2013-02-10 18:06 +0100
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 04:18 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 23:40 +1100
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 05:13 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 00:35 +1100
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 20:00 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 20:00 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2013-02-11 17:06 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 16:55 +1100
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 09:48 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-13 08:24 +1100
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2013-02-12 18:43 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2013-02-12 18:43 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-02-15 13:12 -0700
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-02-16 11:12 +1100
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-12 09:48 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2013-02-11 17:06 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 05:13 -0800
                Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2013-02-15 21:09 +0200
              Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-09 20:26 -0800
          Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-08 16:49 -0800
        Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-02-08 18:06 -0700
          Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-09 22:25 -0800
          Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-02-09 22:25 -0800
      Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-02-09 14:16 +1100
        Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-02-09 15:36 -0500
      Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2013-02-11 21:12 -0800

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