Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'referring': 0.07; 'see.': 0.07; 'objects.': 0.09; 'subject:while': 0.09; 'tuple': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'failed.': 0.16; 'fyi,': 0.16; 'mutated': 0.16; 'naive': 0.16; 'permanently,': 0.16; 'tuples,': 0.16; 'url:general': 0.16; 'url:gmane': 0.16; 'url:thread': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'feb': 0.19; 'constant': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'monday,': 0.23; 'posts': 0.23; 'statement': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'non': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'ago': 0.27; 'am,': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'chris': 0.28; 'url:python': 0.32; 'johnson': 0.32; '11,': 0.33; 'changed': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'list.': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; '12,': 0.36; 'test': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'your': 0.60; 'back': 0.62; 'here': 0.65; 'direct': 0.69; 'eyes': 0.69; 'obvious': 0.71; '2013': 0.84; 'suspicion': 0.84; 'rick': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=xJLXfam/G/y8IC/s+oNK+VJd+l6Y+43S8bZwAIyavMg=; b=S5oMGmvVul+is1w+MNqgipyT8ZHW/VvA1UU9dLXoZ0kZa8ZOw5ATfCBxo4LLeSn4Qu Yh5jpsIw9APZIqbXFTjWwHcjfhKLBMZT3MxuKH6127GKjMCPbrSw81jMKQfoS4B1x0ZU 9f+JLMKa+bA4x3upCvF7j+7UEBOizQJAex3jLXTYofkVCgNZZnJNuLsm5b3BnKTpgxvW 0/6/brdIeBzrnc/2dWif2W/KYFN+VzF8ym8nZi3T6CYPi6woszoH9/LbDlArPbd76M8Q 8WGFchvSSc2opuv/Z42uwMZGxHieTsHB7f1EGUeruzXVIdmujt3lBJFnGuk8M/oWpQ+U a5pA== X-Received: by 10.66.47.193 with SMTP id f1mr10077019pan.48.1360959193167; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 12:13:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0c9bb6fd-b995-4a54-ba2e-4d446072a948@googlegroups.com> References: <86872ad2-fda0-403b-9f18-d1cb18e41860@t32g2000yqd.googlegroups.com> <50039290$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9309333c-13a0-464c-bd94-9c682363b8c9@googlegroups.com> <511516db$0$29969$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <62c3e7bb-d023-43b4-b759-f424707fd346@googlegroups.com> <75c82449-773e-4077-a6c9-e9cef08f845f@googlegroups.com> <13e5e306-d253-418e-a1b2-ac5bde03f07d@googlegroups.com> <5117868b$0$29998$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <375e9978-54a2-421a-a1fa-7f39cafc4f31@googlegroups.com> <43b37855-1d4d-4b16-ac83-115754bc9346@googlegroups.com> <0c9bb6fd-b995-4a54-ba2e-4d446072a948@googlegroups.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:12:33 -0700 Subject: Re: Implicit conversion to boolean in if and while statements To: Rick Johnson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1360959203 news.xs4all.nl 6965 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49605 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:38957 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Monday, February 11, 2013 11:55:19 PM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM, 88888 Dihedral wrote: >> > A permanently mutated list is a tuple of constant objects. >> >> I nominate this line as "bemusing head-scratcher of the week". > > Actually the statement is fact IF you can grok it through the eyes of clarity. > > "A permanently mutated list..." > > A list that has been mutated permanently, that is, it cannot be changed back into a list. psst: i have a sneaking suspicion that he his referring to tuples, let's see. FYI, the general consensus here is that "he" (88888 Dihedral) is a bot. It posts in non sequiturs and fails to respond meaningfully to direct queries. A few months ago I posed an obvious Turing test for it, which it failed. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/718489 Your naive effort to extort meaning from its nonsense is admirable, however.