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Op 30-10-13 08:07, Tim Roberts schreef: > jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Why did Python not implement end... The end is really not necessary for >> the programming language it can be excluded, but it is a courtesy to >> the programmer and could easily be transformed to indents automaticly, >> that is removed before the compiliation/interpretation of code. > > You only say that because your brain has been poisoned by languages that > require some kind of "end". It's not necessary, and it's extra typing. 99% > of programmers do the indentation anyway, to make the program easy to read, > so why not just make it part of the syntax? That way, you don't > accidentally have the indentation not match the syntax. Because it is a pain in the ass. Now suddenly my program doesn't work because I somehow inserted a tab instead of spaces. The end would also gives extra protection against faulty manipulations. I have at one time accidently copied a function partly further below. Because python doesn't need an end, the compilor was unable to detect this was only part of a function which caused a bug which was harder to find. Python made it's choice and I can live with that, but telling people who prefer it had made an other choice that their brain is poisoned, only shows you are unable to see the disadvantages. -- Antoon Pardon
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First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 10:40 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-10-29 18:09 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 11:23 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 11:35 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-10-29 19:24 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 13:08 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 13:11 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-29 20:37 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-10-30 01:44 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-29 16:30 -0400
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-10-29 20:32 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2013-10-30 11:53 +1300
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2013-10-30 00:07 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 01:52 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 02:48 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 02:52 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 10:00 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:13 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 05:08 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-30 08:51 -0400
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:42 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:08 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:11 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:19 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 11:05 +1000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 07:24 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 21:42 +1100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 14:07 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2013-11-02 13:19 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-11-03 12:33 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-11-03 04:54 -0800
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-11-03 04:55 -0800
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 13:01 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-30 15:50 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:54 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 19:59 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 23:17 +1100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 13:42 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 14:22 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 07:31 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 15:09 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:35 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:51 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 15:51 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 09:14 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-10-30 16:47 -0400
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 11:07 +1000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 08:53 -0700
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Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 09:45 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 15:54 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:57 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 16:13 +0000
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Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 16:38 +0000
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Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 20:09 +0100
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Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 19:05 +0000
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Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 20:59 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-30 16:52 -0400
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 22:07 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 00:37 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-31 10:11 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 04:07 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-11-01 11:17 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 09:52 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-31 12:12 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 04:40 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-31 14:01 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 08:30 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 11:55 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 19:26 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 12:38 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 12:41 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-10-31 03:02 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-10-30 16:50 -0400
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 09:19 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 15:15 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 15:56 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 16:07 +0000
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