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| From | Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> |
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| Subject | Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
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| Organization | virginmedia.com |
| Date | 2013-10-30 15:15 +0000 |
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 07:31:04 -0700, jonas.thornvall wrote: > Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 15:22:50 UTC+1 skrev Alister: >> On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:42:37 +0100, Antoon Pardon wrote: >> >> >> >> > Op 30-10-13 13:17, Chris Angelico schreef: >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Antoon Pardon >> >> >> <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> wrote: >> >> >> I broadly agree with your post (I'm of the school of thought that >> >> >> braces are better than indentation for delimiting blocks), but I >> >> don't >> >> >> think this argument holds water. All you need to do is be consistent >> >> >> about tabs OR spaces (and I'd recommend tabs, since they're simpler >> >> and >> >> >> safer), and you'll never have this trouble. >> >> >> > >> > Easier said than done. First of all I can be as consistent as >> > possible, >> >> > I can't just take code from someone else and insert it because that >> >> > other person may be consistenly doing it different from me. >> >> >> >> I disagree it is very easy. >> >> >> >> 1) make sure you editor is set to inset 4 spaces rather than tab when >> >> pressing the tab key. consistency in your own code is now not an issue. >> >> >> >> 2) when importing code from someone else a simple search & replace of >> tab >> >> with 4 spaces will instantly correct the formatting on code using tab >> >> without breaking code that doesn't. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > Then if you are working on different machines, the settings of your >> >> > editor may not always be the same so that you have tabs on one >> > machine >> >> > and spaces on an other, which causes problem when you move the code. >> >> >> > >> that is fixed by setting your environment consistantly but step 2 above >> >> will fix it if you forget. >> >> >> >> > Also when you have an xterm, selecting a tab and pasting it into >> > another >> >> > it will turn the tab into spaces. >> >> >> >> Read pep 11 & always use 4 spaces for indentation not tab. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > All these things usually can be ignored, they typically only show up >> >> > when you print something and things aren't aligned as you expect but >> >> > with python you are forced to correct those things immediately, >> > forcing >> >> > you to focus on white space layout issues instead of on the logic of >> > the >> >> > code. >> >> >> > >> >> Also, the parser should tell you if you mix tabs and spaces, so that >> >> >> won't trip anything either. >> >> >> > >> > Maybe you mean something different than I understand but a program >> >> > throwing a syntax error because there is a tab instead of a number of >> >> > spaces or vice versa, is something I would understand as tripping. >> >> >> >> no more than failing to close a brace in a C like language >> >> indentation is the syntax of python you will grow to love it, like most >> >> people I found it distracting at first even though i tended to indent >> >> other code (inconsistently)to make it readable. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> I am what you will be; I was what you are. > > Alister i do not ask for changing the actual implementation with indents > that the compiler/interpretator work with. What i ask for is some > courtesy relative the programmers using IDLE, to incorporate a simple > automatic parser that let them who like to write slopy formatted with > end instead to do so. And the parser in editor automaticly go in and > autoindent *function, loops, if and allow end that the editor autoindent > to end of loop. It can not be that hard i have implemented my own python > using this... In that case I think you have found yourself a project ;-) I believe Idle is itself written in python so adding a clean-up function that meets your requirements should be feasible. you may even find others who find it useful. Personally I would recommend finding a better environment than Idle -- Your love life will be... interesting.
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First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 10:40 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-10-29 18:09 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 11:23 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 11:35 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-10-29 19:24 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 13:08 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 13:11 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-29 20:37 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-10-30 01:44 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-29 16:30 -0400
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-10-29 20:32 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2013-10-30 11:53 +1300
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2013-10-30 00:07 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 01:52 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 02:48 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 02:52 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 10:00 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:13 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 05:08 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-30 08:51 -0400
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:42 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:08 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:11 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:19 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 11:05 +1000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 07:24 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 21:42 +1100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 14:07 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2013-11-02 13:19 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-11-03 12:33 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-11-03 04:54 -0800
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-11-03 04:55 -0800
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 13:01 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-30 15:50 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:54 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 19:59 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 23:17 +1100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 13:42 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 14:22 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 07:31 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 15:09 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:35 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:51 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 15:51 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 09:14 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-10-30 16:47 -0400
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 11:07 +1000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 08:53 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Kushal Kumaran <kushal.kumaran+python@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 22:00 +0530
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 09:45 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 15:54 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:57 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 16:13 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 09:16 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 16:38 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 16:22 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 09:31 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-10-30 17:44 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 10:55 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 11:02 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 20:09 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 12:16 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 19:01 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 11:43 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 19:05 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 12:13 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 20:59 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-30 16:52 -0400
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 22:07 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 00:37 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-31 10:11 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 04:07 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-11-01 11:17 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 09:52 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-31 12:12 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 04:40 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-31 14:01 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 08:30 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 11:55 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 19:26 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 12:38 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 12:41 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-10-31 03:02 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-10-30 16:50 -0400
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 09:19 -0700
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 15:15 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 15:56 +0100
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 16:07 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 16:14 +0000
Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-10-30 10:02 -0700
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