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Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii

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Date 2013-10-30 13:17 +1100
Subject Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.1787.1383099445.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> You've stated above that logically unicode is badly handled by the fsr.  You
> then provide a trivial timing example.  WTF???

His idea of bad handling is "oh how terrible, ASCII and BMP have
optimizations". He hates the idea that it could be better in some
areas instead of even timings all along. But the FSR actually has some
distinct benefits even in the areas he's citing - watch this:

>>> import timeit
>>> timeit.timeit("a = 'hundred'; 'x' in a")
0.3625614428649451
>>> timeit.timeit("a = 'hundreij'; 'x' in a")
0.6753936603674484
>>> timeit.timeit("a = 'hundred'; 'ģ' in a")
0.25663261671525106
>>> timeit.timeit("a = 'hundreij'; 'ģ' in a")
0.3582399439035271

The first two examples are his examples done on my computer, so you
can see how all four figures compare. Note how testing for the
presence of a non-Latin1 character in an 8-bit string is very fast.
Same goes for testing for non-BMP character in a 16-bit string. The
difference gets even larger if the string is longer:

>>> timeit.timeit("a = 'hundred'*1000; 'x' in a")
10.083378194714726
>>> timeit.timeit("a = 'hundreij'*1000; 'x' in a")
18.656413035735
>>> timeit.timeit("a = 'hundreij'*1000; 'ģ' in a")
18.436268855399135
>>> timeit.timeit("a = 'hundred'*1000; 'ģ' in a")
2.8308718007456264

Wow! The FSR speeds up searches immensely! It's obviously the best
thing since sliced bread!

ChrisA

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trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii bruce <badouglas@gmail.com> - 2013-10-26 16:11 -0400
  Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-26 22:24 +0000
    Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-10-26 20:51 -0400
      Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-10-26 21:11 -0400
        Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-27 02:05 +0000
          Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-27 13:15 +1100
        Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-27 09:21 +0000
    Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-10-26 20:41 -0500
      Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-10-26 21:54 -0400
        Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-10-26 21:17 -0500
      Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-10-27 03:21 +0000
        Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-10-28 07:01 -0700
          Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-28 14:13 +0000
          Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-10-28 09:23 -0500
            Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-29 05:24 +0000
              Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 01:49 -0700
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-30 08:44 -0400
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 09:08 -0700
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 16:24 +0000
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-30 13:10 -0400
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 11:54 -0600
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 11:38 -0700
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-10-30 19:28 -0400
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-10-31 06:46 -0500
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-10-30 17:56 -0400
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-31 07:10 +0000
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-31 07:23 +0000
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-10-31 03:33 -0700
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-11-01 07:16 +0000
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-11-01 02:00 -0700
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-01 09:18 +0000
          Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-10-29 05:22 +0000
            Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 08:38 -0700
              Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-10-29 10:52 -0500
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 12:16 -0700
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-29 19:54 +0000
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org> - 2013-10-29 21:33 -0400
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 09:19 +0000
              Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-29 15:56 +0000
              Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 13:17 +1100
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 01:13 -0700
                Re: trying to strip out non ascii.. or rather convert non ascii Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 15:25 +0000

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