Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.lang.python > #83501

Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change?

Return-Path <skip.montanaro@gmail.com>
X-Original-To python-list@python.org
Delivered-To python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status OK 0.022
X-Spam-Evidence '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; '"this': 0.03; 'indicated': 0.07; 'postfix': 0.07; 'responsive': 0.09; 'subject:Why': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'archive': 0.14; 'mostly': 0.14; 'changes': 0.15; "deleted'": 0.16; 'placeholder': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'folks': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'skip': 0.24; 'earlier': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'pass': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'generally': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'along': 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; 'closer': 0.31; 'though.': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'message.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'so,': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'level': 0.37; 'mentioned': 0.61; 'entire': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'articles': 0.65; 'carefully': 0.74; '2015': 0.84; 'subject:here': 0.84; 'touching': 0.84; 'cutting': 0.91; 'response,': 0.91; 'task,': 0.91; 'archive.': 0.93
DKIM-Signature v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aydoU6LENuzU5ongDQdLkehQ7F4NKTs5hZ5vAHUN3Cs=; b=ItfF0UAQDoIcOfVaTQ9VLAbOY+Kbk2A2WofoteZ2TvFZM6pTMW+T78BFq3km5jbvmq Mx/4zb+wlybcYtG9OHyZ0N8H49Tfn8QNemiwZDaaGRiUxqrfRqW/NzSC1QQcnk2YAnrV TojGkNANoTdsA5psI/LYgfwP3pRX6qJAmgSCLiP+Qveb7tAqfWzGHKI19BnvlOiIo/uv XEMGeOo9tkQXCBS28S5RS6nvK7SFAM3Gh/duLZrqlUsnoiF5SizsZ0ngDgSF1O/f5Qlx pyssu7GA2p7d8aDmWiFhybyFHsIJEPCSSsEhFbgCmMPUHZ5sOyiAXZ8rZE8LD5kqxG2R EkqA==
MIME-Version 1.0
X-Received by 10.60.92.5 with SMTP id ci5mr12294725oeb.26.1420898273158; Sat, 10 Jan 2015 05:57:53 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To <m8qs58$g3t$2@ger.gmane.org>
References <54afb3ed$0$12995$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <CANc-5UztJsV20dRCpLs5oVrDjr131p8afV5Mp_SwFq2OihKwyQ@mail.gmail.com> <m8qs58$g3t$2@ger.gmane.org>
Date Sat, 10 Jan 2015 07:57:53 -0600
Subject Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change?
From Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com>
To Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Content-Type text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Cc Python <python-list@python.org>
X-BeenThere python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version 2.1.15
Precedence list
List-Id General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.17564.1420898282.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)
Lines 28
NNTP-Posting-Host 2001:888:2000:d::a6
X-Trace 1420898282 news.xs4all.nl 2924 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55290
X-Complaints-To abuse@xs4all.nl
Path csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!bete-des-vosges.org!feed.ac-versailles.fr!nerim.net!novso.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail
Xref csiph.com comp.lang.python:83501

Show key headers only | View raw


On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 3:41 AM, Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> wrote:
> The post could be replaced by a placeholder "This message deleted'
>
>  and the
>>
>> archive regenerated. That changes the counter for every message after
>
>
> A placeholder should avoid that.

I suspect (though don't know for certain) that just regenerating the
archive without touching the mbox file will change the numbering.
Steven's original post mentioned two very different basenames (468598
and 481374). As I indicated in an earlier response, those might be
generated from an ever-growing counter, not just a shift as articles
slide one closer to the first one of the month.

So, you'd have to edit the mbox file carefully (might need to edit
headers) and also edit the generated HTML for the message. Neither is
an insurmountable task, but both are going to be more error-prone than
just cutting out an entire message and regenerating the archive.

I will pass along your suggestion to the postmaster folks (I don't get
involved that that level - it's mostly the folks who directly maintain
the Postfix setup who do this), though. They are a generally pretty
responsive bunch.

Skip

Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

Why do the URLs of posts here change? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-01-09 21:56 +1100
  Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2015-01-09 06:04 -0600
    Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-01-09 23:28 +1100
    Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-01-10 16:21 +1300
      Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-01-10 14:53 +1100
        Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-01-17 16:39 +0000
          Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-01-18 11:31 +1300
  Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2015-01-09 13:04 +0100
  Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-01-09 06:09 -0800
    Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2015-01-09 08:15 -0600
      Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-01-09 08:52 -0800
        Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-01-10 03:57 +1100
          Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-01-09 09:19 -0800
  Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-01-10 04:41 -0500
  Re: Why do the URLs of posts here change? Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2015-01-10 07:57 -0600

csiph-web