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| From | Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Subject | Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask |
| Date | 2016-04-10 16:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.17.1460331027.6211.python-list@python.org> (permalink) |
| References | <neelcl$mer$1@gioia.aioe.org> <1460331024.3440141.574603049.214AD5E6@webmail.messagingengine.com> |
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016, at 03:51 PM, Fillmore wrote:
>
> let's look at this:
>
> $ python3.4
> Python 3.4.0 (default, Apr 11 2014, 13:05:11)
> [GCC 4.8.2] on linux
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> line1 = '"String1" | bla'
> >>> parts1 = line1.split(" | ")
> >>> parts1
> ['"String1"', 'bla']
> >>> tokens1 = eval(parts1[0])
> >>> tokens1
> 'String1'
> >>> tokens1[0]
> 'S'
>
> and now this
>
> >>> line2 = '"String1","String2" | bla'
> >>> parts2 = line2.split(" | ")
> >>> tokens2 = eval(parts2[0])
I *THINK* what you're asking is why this returns a tuple, where in the
first eval you got a string. The answer is because commas create tuples
(not parens), so:
"String1", "String2"
is a tuple expression. Whereas:
"String1"
is a string expression.
> the question is: at which point did the language designers decide to
> betray the
> "path of least surprise" principle and create a 'discontinuity' in the
> language?
There's nothing inconsistent or surprising going on besides you doing
something vaguely weird and not really expressing what you find
surprising.
--Stephen
m e @ i x o k a i . i o
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Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-10 18:51 -0400
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 08:58 +1000
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-04-11 09:04 +1000
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-04-10 16:30 -0700
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:17 -0400
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-04-10 17:32 -0700
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-04-10 21:45 -0400
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-04-11 08:41 +0300
one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:13 -0400
Re: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-04-10 17:19 -0700
Re: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-04-10 17:18 -0700
Re: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 10:20 +1000
Re: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:22 -0400
Re: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-04-10 17:28 -0700
Re: one-element tuples Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-04-11 10:31 +1000
Re: one-element tuples Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-10 20:48 -0400
Re: one-element tuples Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-04-11 10:56 +1000
Re: one-element tuples Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-11 14:10 +0000
Re: one-element tuples Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-11 10:11 -0400
Re: one-element tuples Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-11 14:26 +0000
Re: one-element tuples Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2016-04-10 18:00 -0700
Re: one-element tuples Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-04-10 18:07 -0700
Re: one-element tuples "Martin A. Brown" <martin@linux-ip.net> - 2016-04-10 18:08 -0700
Re: one-element tuples Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-10 23:19 -0400
Re: one-element tuples Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-04-11 09:57 +0300
Re: one-element tuples Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-11 23:01 -0700
Re: one-element tuples Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-04-11 11:36 +1000
Re: one-element tuples Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-10 22:57 -0400
Re: one-element tuples Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-04-11 14:10 +1000
Re: one-element tuples Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-11 00:43 -0400
Re: one-element tuples Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-04-10 21:54 -0700
Re: one-element tuples Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-04-11 15:40 +1000
Re: one-element tuples Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 22:07 -0700
Re: one-element tuples BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-04-11 12:15 +0100
Re: one-element tuples Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-04-11 15:12 +0300
Re: one-element tuples Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-11 14:12 +0000
Re: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-04-11 10:30 +1000
Re: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2016-04-11 01:33 +0100
Re: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2016-04-11 02:22 +0000
Re: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 12:34 +1000
Re: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 10:38 +1000
Parens do create a tuple (was: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask]) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-04-11 10:45 +1000
Re: Parens do create a tuple (was: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask]) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 10:50 +1000
Re: Parens do create a tuple Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-04-11 10:57 +1000
Re: Parens do create a tuple Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 11:04 +1000
Re: Parens do create a tuple (was: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask]) Stephen Hansen <me@ixokai.io> - 2016-04-10 18:03 -0700
Re: Parens do create a tuple (was: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask]) Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2016-04-10 19:52 -0500
Re: Parens do create a tuple Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-04-11 11:41 +1000
Re: Parens do create a tuple Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-04-11 12:32 +1000
Re: Parens do create a tuple Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-04-10 22:51 -0400
Re: Parens do create a tuple Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-04-11 14:08 +1000
Re: Parens do create a tuple Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-04-11 01:27 -0400
Re: Parens do create a tuple Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-04-11 18:01 +1000
Re: Parens do create a tuple Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2016-04-11 09:42 -0400
Re: Parens do create a tuple Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 13:02 +1000
Re: Parens do create a tuple Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-04-11 14:08 +1000
Re: Parens do create a tuple Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 11:51 +1000
Re: Parens do create a tuple Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-04-11 12:57 +1000
Re: one-element tuples [Was: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask] Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2016-04-10 19:46 -0500
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-04-11 11:50 +1000
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-10 22:48 -0400
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-04-11 13:54 +1000
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-11 00:03 -0400
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-04-10 21:46 -0700
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 22:18 -0700
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Stephen Hansen <me+python@ixokai.io> - 2016-04-10 22:42 -0700
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 23:57 -0700
Re: Most probably a stupid question, but I still want to ask Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-04-11 17:50 +1000
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