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Re: Encapsulation in Python

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Subject Re: Encapsulation in Python
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On 15/03/2016 02:01, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 10:19 am, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>
>> There is no need to optimise python, it is fast enough.

I should of course have said on the end " for (say) 99% of purposes".

>
> Somebody should tell the core developers like Brett Cannon and Victor
> Stinner that they are wasting their time working on Python optimizers.
>
> Since Python is fast enough, obviously anyone who thinks differently is
> obviously mistaken, and we should just shut down all those projects like
> Cython, Theano, Numba, Copperhead, Parakeet, Pyjion and Pyston. Clearly
> their developers are just wasting their time.
>

No, they are merely joining up with Pinky and the Brain in taking over 
the world.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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Re: Encapsulation in Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 08:27 -0700
  Re: Encapsulation in Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 16:45 -0800
    Re: Encapsulation in Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 08:47 -0700
      Re: Encapsulation in Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 18:39 -0800
        Re: Encapsulation in Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 09:44 -0700
          Re: Encapsulation in Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 19:11 -0800
          Re: Encapsulation in Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-13 21:11 +1100
            Re: Encapsulation in Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 10:32 -0700
              Re: Encapsulation in Python Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 15:09 -0600
              Re: Encapsulation in Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-14 21:23 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-14 22:07 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-14 22:20 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-14 22:40 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-14 23:19 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-14 23:56 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 11:12 +1100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-15 00:54 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 11:58 +1100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-15 01:22 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 13:02 +1100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 00:28 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-15 01:10 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 12:23 +1100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 04:41 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python rurpy@yahoo.com - 2016-03-14 17:17 -0700
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 11:25 +1100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-15 13:06 +1100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 13:14 +1100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-15 13:40 +1100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 21:08 -0700
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 00:47 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-15 13:46 +1100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 11:56 +1100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 04:36 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-03-15 13:01 +1100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-03-15 04:45 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2016-03-15 22:02 +0100
                Re: Encapsulation in Python BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-16 00:39 +0000
                Re: Encapsulation in Python BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2016-03-16 22:58 +0000
        Re: Encapsulation in Python sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2016-03-14 11:11 -0700
          Re: Encapsulation in Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-14 23:09 -0700
      Re: Encapsulation in Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 18:56 -0800
    Re: Encapsulation in Python Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-03-12 13:52 +1300
      Re: Encapsulation in Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 08:49 -0800
        Re: Encapsulation in Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 08:10 +1100
          Re: Encapsulation in Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 19:36 -0800
            Re: Encapsulation in Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-03-13 15:05 +1100
        Re: Encapsulation in Python Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-03-14 12:35 +1300
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