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On 2014-09-18 08:58, Roy Smith wrote:
> I suspect what he meant was "How can I tell if I'm iterating over
> an ordered collection?", i.e. iterating over a list vs. iterating
> over a set.
>
> list1 = [item for item in i]
> list2 = [item for item in i]
>
> am I guaranteed that list1 == list2? It will be for all the
> collections I can think of in the standard library,
For stdlib *collections*, yes, but if you're just talking generic
iterators, then it can become exhausted in the first:
with open('example.txt') as f:
list1 = [item for item in f]
list2 = [item for item in f]
assert list1 == list2, "Not equal"
The OP would have to track the meta-information regarding whether the
iterable was sorted.
At least for dicts, order is guaranteed by the specs as long as the
container isn't modified between iterations[1], but I don't see any
similar claim for sets.
You can always test the thing:
def foo(iterable):
if isinstance(iterable, (set, frozenset)):
iterable = sorted(iterable)
for thing in iterable:
do_stuff(thing)
but nothing prevents that from being called with an unsorted list.
That said, sorting in the stdlib is pretty speedy on pre-sorted lists,
so I'd just start by sorting whatever it is that you have, unless
you're positive it's already sorted.
-tkc
[1]
https://docs.python.org/2/library/stdtypes.html#dict.items
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Is there a canonical way to check whether an iterable is ordered? cool-RR <ram.rachum@gmail.com> - 2014-09-18 04:55 -0700
Re: Is there a canonical way to check whether an iterable is ordered? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-09-18 22:10 +1000
Re: Is there a canonical way to check whether an iterable is ordered? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-09-18 08:58 -0400
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Re: Is there a canonical way to check whether an iterable is ordered? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-09-19 12:45 +1000
Re: Is there a canonical way to check whether an iterable is ordered? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-09-19 18:02 -0400
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Re: Is there a canonical way to check whether an iterable is ordered? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-09-18 09:46 -0400
Re: Is there a canonical way to check whether an iterable is ordered? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-09-18 09:32 -0500
Re: Is there a canonical way to check whether an iterable is ordered? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-09-19 15:15 +1000
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