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Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons

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Date Tue, 05 May 2015 17:00:05 -0400
From Dave Angel <davea@davea.name>
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On 05/05/2015 04:30 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> wrote:
>> When the "simple" is True, the function takes noticeably and consistently
>> longer.  For example, it might take 116 instead of 109 seconds.  For the
>> same counts, your code took 111.
>
> I can't replicate this. What version of Python is it, and what value
> of x are you testing with?
>
>> I've looked at dis.dis(factorial_iterative), and can see no explicit reason
>> for the difference.
>
> My first thought is that maybe it's a result of the branch. Have you
> tried swapping the branches, or reimplementing as separate functions
> and comparing?
>

Logic is quite simple:


def factorial_iterative(x, simple=False):
     assert x >= 0
     result = 1
     j=2
     if not simple:
         for i in range(2, x + 1):
             #print("range value is of type", type(i), "and value", i)
             #print("ordinary value is of type", type(j), "and value", j)
             result *= i
             j += 1
     else:
         for i in range(2, x + 1):
             result *= j
             j += 1

     return result

def loop(func, funcname, arg):
     start = time.time()
     for i in range(repeats):
         func(arg, True)
     print("{0}({1}) took {2:7.4}".format(funcname, arg, time.time()-start))

     start = time.time()
     for i in range(repeats):
         func(arg)
     print("{0}({1}) took {2:7.4}".format(funcname, arg, time.time()-start))

repeats = 1

and arg is 10**4
     loop(factorial_iterative,      "factorial_iterative      ", arg)

My actual program does the same thing with other versions of the 
function, including Cecil's factorial_tail_recursion, and my optimized 
version of that.


Python 3.4.0 (default, Apr 11 2014, 13:05:11)
[GCC 4.8.2] on linux

factorial_iterative      (100000) took   3.807
factorial_iterative      (100000) took   3.664

factorial_iterative      (200000) took   17.07
factorial_iterative      (200000) took    15.3

factorial_iterative      (300000) took   38.93
factorial_iterative      (300000) took   36.01


Note that I test them in the opposite order of where they appear in the 
function.  That's because I was originally using the simple flag to test 
an empty loop.  The empty loop is much quicker either way, so it's not 
the issue.  (But if it were, the for-range version is much quicker).

I think I'll take your last suggestion and write separate functions.



-- 
DaveA

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Throw the cat among the pigeons Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-02 16:20 +0200
  Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-03 17:12 +0200
    Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Paul  Moore <p.f.moore@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 08:47 -0700
      Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-05 18:18 +0200
        Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-05-05 14:45 -0400
          Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-05 21:42 +0200
            Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-06 12:57 +1000
              Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 14:03 +1000
        Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 14:30 -0600
        Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-05-05 16:46 -0400
          Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-05 23:12 +0200
            Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-05-05 19:22 -0400
        Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-05-05 17:00 -0400
        Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 15:23 -0600
          Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-06 11:27 +1000
            Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 23:58 -0600
              Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-06 17:08 +1000
                Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 10:17 -0600
                Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-06 21:23 +0100
        Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 15:39 -0600
        Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-05-05 17:55 -0400
        Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-06 12:19 +1000
  Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-06 14:05 +1000
    Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-06 16:26 +1000
      Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-05-06 09:12 -0400
        Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2015-05-07 03:16 +0000
      Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 23:55 +1000
      Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-05-06 10:22 -0400
      Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-06 08:12 -0700
        Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Alain Ketterlin <alain@universite-de-strasbourg.fr.invalid> - 2015-05-06 17:36 +0200
          Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-05-06 16:23 -0400
            Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Alain Ketterlin <alain@universite-de-strasbourg.fr.invalid> - 2015-05-07 11:14 +0200
              Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-07 19:38 +1000
        Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 09:47 -0600
          Re: Throw the cat among the pigeons Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-06 10:24 -0700

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