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| Date | Sat, 23 Aug 2014 08:00:59 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: Python vs C++ |
| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> wrote: > On 08/22/2014 03:49 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> My main issue with callbacks in either C or C++ is that functions >> aren't first-class objects. You can pass function pointers around (and >> you don't need (void *) to do it, you can use typed function pointers >> just fine), but you can't actually construct a function at run-time. > > I'm not sure I fully understand your meaning. You seem to prefer > dynamic languages, which is great because this is the Python list after > all. I'm not sure I know of any statically compiled language that lets > one construct a function at run-time. I know Boost supports lambda > functions but I'm not sure this is quite what you are referring to either. Right, I'm just saying that callbacks are inherently restrictive in a language without first-class functions. So I'm not sure why you have further issue with C++; C's way of doing callbacks works fine in C++, and there's not going to be anything better. ChrisA
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Python vs C++ David Palao <dpalao.python@gmail.com> - 2014-08-21 14:54 +0200
Re: Python vs C++ wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-08-21 07:08 -0700
Re: Python vs C++ Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-08-21 07:10 -0700
Re: Python vs C++ Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-08-21 14:59 +0000
Re: Python vs C++ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-08-21 23:12 -0400
Re: Python vs C++ Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2014-08-22 10:05 +0200
Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-22 18:50 +1000
Re: Python vs C++ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-22 12:29 +0300
Re: Python vs C++ "Neil D. Cerutti" <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2014-08-22 08:51 -0400
Re: Python vs C++ Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-08-22 07:58 -0500
Re: Python vs C++ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-22 20:16 +0300
Re: Python vs C++ mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2014-08-23 17:47 +0100
Re: Python vs C++ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-23 19:54 +0300
Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-22 23:00 +1000
Re: Python vs C++ Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2014-08-22 21:25 +0200
Re: Python vs C++ Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2014-08-22 21:58 +0200
Re: Python vs C++ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-22 23:06 +0300
Re: Python vs C++ Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-08-22 15:38 -0600
Re: Python vs C++ wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-08-23 03:00 -0700
Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 07:49 +1000
Re: Python vs C++ Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 05:38 -0700
Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 23:00 +1000
Re: Python vs C++ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 08:02 -0600
Re: Python vs C++ Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 07:21 -0700
Re: Python vs C++ Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-08-23 16:51 -0400
Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-24 00:21 +1000
Re: Python vs C++ Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-08-23 15:09 -0400
Re: Python vs C++ Joseph Martinot-Lagarde <joseph.martinot-lagarde@m4x.org> - 2014-08-24 14:54 +0200
Re: Python vs C++ "Neil D. Cerutti" <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2014-08-25 09:01 -0400
Re: Python vs C++ Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-08-22 15:56 -0600
Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 08:00 +1000
Re: Python vs C++ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-23 10:27 +0300
Re: Python vs C++ dieter <dieter@handshake.de> - 2014-08-23 07:56 +0200
Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 16:11 +1000
Re: Python vs C++ Paul Rudin <paul.nospam@rudin.co.uk> - 2014-08-23 08:36 +0100
Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 18:04 +1000
Re: Python vs C++ dieter <dieter@handshake.de> - 2014-08-23 07:48 +0200
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