Re: Python vs C++

From	"Neil D. Cerutti" <neilc@norwich.edu>
Subject	Re: Python vs C++
Date	2014-08-25 09:01 -0400
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On 8/23/2014 9:00 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here is an example (not identical but analogous to) where markup+compile is
>> distinctly weaker than wysiwyg:
>>
>> You can use lilypond to type music and the use a midi player to play it
>> But lilypond does not allow playing and seeing-in-realtime
>>
>> WYSIWYG editors allow that -- can make a huge difference to beginners
>> who find music hard to read.
>
> I don't buy that it's weaker. In fact, I'd say this proves that markup
> is distinctly better - just a little harder to do "Hello, world" in.
>
> At best, the simple GUI makes it easier to do something
> straight-forward, and then basically lets you drop to the more
> complicated form. At worst, it makes it easier to do the very simple,
> and nearly impossible to do the more complicated.

The worst part of using a WYSIWIG program is the frustration of 
correcting a bewildering problem when some kind of autoformatting magic 
goes wrong.

One odd example is when using Word to compose template documents meant 
for merging with external data. The markup+compile phase takes on a 
whole new, horrible meaning. My ears are turning red just imagining the 
next time I have to do it.

-- 
Neil Cerutti

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Python vs C++ David Palao <dpalao.python@gmail.com> - 2014-08-21 14:54 +0200
  Re: Python vs C++ wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-08-21 07:08 -0700
  Re: Python vs C++ Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-08-21 07:10 -0700
  Re: Python vs C++ Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-08-21 14:59 +0000
    Re: Python vs C++ Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-08-21 23:12 -0400
  Re: Python vs C++ Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2014-08-22 10:05 +0200
    Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-22 18:50 +1000
      Re: Python vs C++ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-22 12:29 +0300
        Re: Python vs C++ "Neil D. Cerutti" <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2014-08-22 08:51 -0400
        Re: Python vs C++ Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-08-22 07:58 -0500
          Re: Python vs C++ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-22 20:16 +0300
            Re: Python vs C++ mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2014-08-23 17:47 +0100
              Re: Python vs C++ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-23 19:54 +0300
        Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-22 23:00 +1000
        Re: Python vs C++ Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2014-08-22 21:25 +0200
          Re: Python vs C++ Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2014-08-22 21:58 +0200
          Re: Python vs C++ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-22 23:06 +0300
            Re: Python vs C++ Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-08-22 15:38 -0600
              Re: Python vs C++ wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-08-23 03:00 -0700
            Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 07:49 +1000
              Re: Python vs C++ Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 05:38 -0700
                Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 23:00 +1000
                Re: Python vs C++ Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 08:02 -0600
                Re: Python vs C++ Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 07:21 -0700
                Re: Python vs C++ Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-08-23 16:51 -0400
                Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-24 00:21 +1000
                Re: Python vs C++ Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-08-23 15:09 -0400
                Re: Python vs C++ Joseph Martinot-Lagarde <joseph.martinot-lagarde@m4x.org> - 2014-08-24 14:54 +0200
                Re: Python vs C++ "Neil D. Cerutti" <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2014-08-25 09:01 -0400
            Re: Python vs C++ Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2014-08-22 15:56 -0600
            Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 08:00 +1000
              Re: Python vs C++ Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-08-23 10:27 +0300
            Re: Python vs C++ dieter <dieter@handshake.de> - 2014-08-23 07:56 +0200
            Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 16:11 +1000
              Re: Python vs C++ Paul Rudin <paul.nospam@rudin.co.uk> - 2014-08-23 08:36 +0100
                Re: Python vs C++ Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-23 18:04 +1000
          Re: Python vs C++ dieter <dieter@handshake.de> - 2014-08-23 07:48 +0200

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