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Re: Uninstall

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Date Wed, 5 Aug 2015 03:08:02 +0100
Subject Re: Uninstall
From Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com>
To Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com>
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com>
wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 2:32:16 PM UTC-4, sohca...@gmail.com wrote:
> > milos: "You can't uninstall Python because it will break things"
> > Grant: "Actually, you CAN uninstall Python, but it will break things"
> >
> > I really fucking hate how pedantic some of the people on this mailing
list are.
> >
> > milos wasn't wrong.  You just chose to take his message too literally.
I thought it was pretty clear that when milos said "can't", he really meant
"shouldn't".
>
> While I am often dismayed at the pedantry on this list (and many others),
> in this case, I think the clarification was warranted.  When a beginner
> is about to attempt something dangerous, it is prudent to be sure the
> instructions are clear.
>
> "You can't uninstall, because things won't work" sounds a bit like,
> "you literally will not be able to uninstall things, because the operating
> system will prevent you because it protects itself."
>
> I wouldn't want the next message to be the original asker saying, "No,
> look, I was able to uninstall just fine!" without realizing they were
> damaging their system.
>

Pedantry sort of comes with the territory. It's in the job description, so
to speak. DJ Wiza should know that. There's that used joke of the
programmer's wife that asks him to bring 3 loaves of bread and if there are
any eggs to bring a dozen, and the programmer brings her wife a dozen
loaves of bread.

But being an asshole does not. That is something one chooses to become.
Your answer squarely puts you in the group of people that chose to be in
life to be a pain to others and actually gain the respect of even those
that don't even know them. Unlike some other people in here.

But Mark is right in a way... People like him is a reason I rarely frequent
this place anymore.

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  Re: Uninstall Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-04 14:29 +0000
    Re: Uninstall milos zorica <miloshzorica@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:01 -0300
    Re: Uninstall sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2015-08-04 11:31 -0700
      Re: Uninstall Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-04 21:01 +0100
        Re: Uninstall Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-05 13:02 +0200
      Re: Uninstall Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2015-08-04 15:06 -0700
        Re: Uninstall Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 03:08 +0100
        Re: Uninstall Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 03:18 +0100
          Re: Uninstall Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 21:42 -0700
            Re: Uninstall paul.anton.letnes@gmail.com - 2015-08-04 22:45 -0700
      Re: Uninstall Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 02:51 +0100
        Re: Uninstall Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2015-08-04 19:03 -0700
      Re: Uninstall Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-05 11:25 +0100
      Re: Uninstall Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-08-05 15:35 -0700

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