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Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"!

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Date Tue, 22 Jul 2014 01:27:32 +1000
Subject Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"!
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On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 21/07/2014 15:27, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>> On 2014-07-21, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You call it a bug because you can't think of any way it could be
>>> beneficial. That's the wrong way of looking at it. Something isn't a
>>> bug because you find it annoying; it's a bug because it fails to
>>> implement the programmer's intentions and/or the docs/specification.
>>
>>
>> I was always taught that it's a "bug" is when a program doesn't do
>> what a reasonable user expects -- that it's got nothing to do with the
>> programmer's intent.
>>
>
> As in my entire career I've never come across a "reasonable user" then by
> that definition there are no bugs.

Absence of evidence is not the same as evidence of absence. It may be
that there is a single platinum "reasonable user", kept at the
International Bureau of Bugs, that we may all look on it and know what
the SI Standard User is.

ChrisA

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PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 14:14 -0700
  Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-20 22:36 +0100
  Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> - 2014-07-20 23:40 +0200
    Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 15:44 -0700
      Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 11:02 +1000
        Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 19:06 -0700
          Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-07-20 21:30 -0500
          Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 12:38 +1000
            Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-21 14:27 +0000
              Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Shiyao Ma <i@introo.me> - 2014-07-21 22:40 +0800
                Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-21 16:51 +0000
                Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-21 16:57 +0000
              Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 00:48 +1000
              Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 00:51 +1000
                Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-21 16:55 +0000
                Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 03:56 +1000
              Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Monte Milanuk <memilanuk@invalid.com> - 2014-07-21 14:55 +0000
              Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-21 16:19 +0100
                Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-21 16:56 +0000
              Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 01:27 +1000
              Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2014-07-21 17:57 +0200
                Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-07-21 17:03 +0000
                Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2014-07-21 19:40 +0200
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                Re: Adapt bash readline operate-and-get-next Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-19 10:17 +1000
                Re: Adapt bash readline operate-and-get-next Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-08-19 10:32 +1000
                Re: Adapt bash readline operate-and-get-next Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2014-08-19 10:49 +0200
                Re: Adapt bash readline operate-and-get-next Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2014-08-19 11:51 +0200
                Re: Adapt bash readline operate-and-get-next Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-08-18 14:06 -0500
                Re: Adapt bash readline operate-and-get-next Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2014-08-19 10:44 +0200
                Re: Adapt bash readline operate-and-get-next Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-08-19 07:45 -0500
                Re: Adapt bash readline operate-and-get-next Lele Gaifax <lele@metapensiero.it> - 2014-08-19 15:10 +0200
              Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 02:05 +1000
              Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-21 15:16 -0400
            RE: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! "Coll-Barth, Michael" <Michael.Coll-Barth@VerizonWireless.com> - 2014-07-21 10:51 -0400
          Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-21 03:45 +0100
          Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-07-20 23:05 -0400
          Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 13:09 +1000
          Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Martin S <shieldfire@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 09:51 +0200
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    Re: Tabbed IDLE (was PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"!) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 11:04 +1000
    Re: Tabbed IDLE (was PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"!) Tim Chase <tim@thechases.com> - 2014-07-20 19:55 -0500
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