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Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python

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On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> wrote:
> On 1/29/2016 3:51 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 7:42 AM, Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>
>
>>> - Is there a good IDE that can be used for debugging? all free IDEs for
>>> Perl
>>> suck and it would be awesome if Python was better than that.
>>>
>>
>> Debugging Python code is generally easy enough without an IDE; any
>> time something goes wrong, you get an exception with a very pretty
>> traceback. That's usually enough on its own. A little bit of editor
>> integration can help you jump to the lines mentioned, in the same way
>> that you might get that with C compiler errors; that's all I've ever
>> needed.
>
>
> When one runs code from an IDLE editor, output and exceptions go to the IDLE
> Shell.  Right click on a traceback line and select 'Go to file/line' and
> IDLE will display the file in an IDLE editor (opening it if necessary) and
> put the cursor on the proper line.  (It does the same with grep output.)

Yep. Same happens if you run the file from SciTE, and probably a lot
of other editors too. I don't call them "IDEs" because of that one
feature, but honestly, I don't need anything more of an IDE.

ChrisA

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psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-28 19:01 -0500
  Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python paul.hermeneutic@gmail.com - 2016-01-28 17:22 -0700
  Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Nathan Hilterbrand <nhilterbrand@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 19:21 -0500
    Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 19:23 -0800
      Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 14:26 +1100
    Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2016-01-30 02:26 -0800
      Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-31 17:34 -0500
        Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 16:45 -0700
        Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 10:48 +1100
        Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-01-31 18:51 -0500
          Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 18:59 -0800
            Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 14:15 +1100
              Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 19:43 -0800
              Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 14:53 -0800
  Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 11:25 +1100
    Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-01-29 18:12 +1100
      Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 18:19 +1100
      Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Ulli Horlacher <framstag@rus.uni-stuttgart.de> - 2016-01-29 09:12 +0000
        Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 11:03 +0000
          Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Ulli Horlacher <framstag@rus.uni-stuttgart.de> - 2016-01-29 12:21 +0000
            Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-01-30 00:46 +1100
              Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-01-30 09:47 +1100
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-01-30 22:12 +1100
            Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 13:30 -0800
              Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-29 19:57 -0500
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-01-30 12:04 +1100
              Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 19:38 -0800
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-01-31 11:18 +1300
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2016-01-31 12:56 +1100
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 19:22 -0800
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2016-01-31 14:48 +1100
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 19:53 -0800
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2016-01-31 20:56 +1100
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-31 09:45 -0800
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 18:08 -0800
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-01-31 20:23 +1100
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2016-01-31 20:53 +1100
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-31 09:49 -0800
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2016-02-01 08:16 +1100
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-01-31 07:28 -0500
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 05:12 -0800
                Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 14:25 -0800
              Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 20:04 -0800
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          Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-29 12:56 -0500
          Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-01-30 11:21 +1300
        Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2016-01-29 12:49 -0800
          Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 14:29 -0800
      Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2016-01-30 10:48 +1100
  Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2016-01-29 12:20 +1100
  Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 18:06 -0800
    Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 13:34 +1100
      Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2016-01-29 12:41 -0800
        Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 07:54 +1100
        Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2016-01-30 11:27 +1300
    Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 21:42 -0700
    Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-29 08:54 -0500
  Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Jussi Piitulainen <jussi.piitulainen@helsinki.fi> - 2016-01-29 08:24 +0200
  Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-01-29 08:50 -0500
  Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-29 12:04 -0500
  Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python "Sven R. Kunze" <srkunze@mail.de> - 2016-01-29 18:39 +0100
  Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Fillmore <fillmore_remove@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-29 15:42 -0500
    Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 07:51 +1100
    Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Nathan Hilterbrand <nhilterbrand@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 16:38 -0500
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    Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2016-01-29 22:08 -0500
    Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 14:12 +1100
  Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2016-01-30 09:49 +1100
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