Re: Python handles globals badly.

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On 04/09/2015 01:06, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 09/03/2015 01:05 PM, tdev@freenet.de wrote:
>
>> [The same e.g. with switch statement: add it]
>
> Switch is a nice-to-have thing, but definitely not essential. A PEP here
> (probably already has been several) would at least be read anyway.
> However, there are several idiomatic ways of accomplishing the same
> thing that are often good enough and familiar to any Python programmer
> out there.  Since functions are first-class objects, often a dispatch
> table is the best way to go here.
>

https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3103/ "A Switch/Case Statement" by 
Guido van Rossum, "Rejection Notice - A quick poll during my keynote 
presentation at PyCon 2007 shows this proposal has no popular support. I 
therefore reject it".

https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0275/ "Switching on Multiple Values" 
by Marc-André Lemburg, "Rejection Notice - A similar PEP for Python 
3000, PEP 3103 [2], was already rejected, so this proposal has no chance 
of being accepted either."

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

Thread

Re: Python handles globals badly. tdev@freenet.de - 2015-09-03 12:05 -0700
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:47 -0600
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:51 -0600
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-09-03 23:13 +0100
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 16:45 -0600
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 18:06 -0600
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-09-04 01:47 +0100
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-09-04 12:27 +1000
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-09-04 12:33 +1000
    Re: Python handles globals badly. Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-09-08 11:07 +0200
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-09-08 10:59 +0200
    Re: Python handles globals badly. Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-09-09 13:27 +1000
      Re: Python handles globals badly. Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 23:08 -0600
      Re: Python handles globals badly. Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-09-09 17:04 +0200
      Re: Python handles globals badly. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-09-09 17:46 +0100
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-09-08 10:22 +0100
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-09-08 11:59 +0200
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-09-08 12:07 +0200

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