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Re: Python handles globals badly.

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From Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Date 2015-09-03 13:51 -0600
Subject Re: Python handles globals badly.
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
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On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 1:05 PM,  <tdev@freenet.de> wrote:
>
>> But then I ask you from high-level point of view
>> (if my high level view is correct at all):
>> Would you remove this keyword if it would be technically possible
>> or is good for you from high level point of view to have a keyword "global"?
>
> Provided that the proposal doesn't open up the possibility of
> unintentionally creating a global variable where I wanted a local, I'd
> be okay with it.

Let me clarify that I'd be okay with making the keyword optional. It
should probably still be kept around for the occasional use like this:

exec("""def function():
    global {0}
    {0} = 42
""".format('x'))

where the compiler would have little hope of figuring out that the
variable was meant to be global without it.

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Re: Python handles globals badly. tdev@freenet.de - 2015-09-03 12:05 -0700
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:47 -0600
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:51 -0600
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-09-03 23:13 +0100
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 16:45 -0600
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 18:06 -0600
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-09-04 01:47 +0100
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-09-04 12:27 +1000
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-09-04 12:33 +1000
    Re: Python handles globals badly. Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-09-08 11:07 +0200
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-09-08 10:59 +0200
    Re: Python handles globals badly. Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-09-09 13:27 +1000
      Re: Python handles globals badly. Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 23:08 -0600
      Re: Python handles globals badly. Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-09-09 17:04 +0200
      Re: Python handles globals badly. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-09-09 17:46 +0100
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-09-08 10:22 +0100
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-09-08 11:59 +0200
  Re: Python handles globals badly. Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> - 2015-09-08 12:07 +0200

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