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Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

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On 05/24/2014 09:03 AM, Devin Jeanpierre wrote:
> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
 >>
>> Instead of focusing on bringing legacy libraries to Python3 (for which
>> there never seems to be a critical need), Python3 needs a brand new
>> killer module/application/library that is only available on Python3.
>
> Yikes! Backwards incompatibility is a poor excuse for NIH syndrome.
>
> Don't reinvent the wheel, please. If there's an existing
> implementation of a thing, that can save you a lot of work. Even if it
> ties you to Python 2, that's worth it, most of the time. If you want
> to migrate to Python 3, help that library forward, rather than trying
> to make some bespoke replacement you think will be a killer app.

+1

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~Ethan~

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  Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-05-23 19:57 -0400
    Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-05-23 17:27 -0700
      Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-05-23 21:12 -0400
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  Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-24 00:13 -0700
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      Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-24 12:59 +0300
        Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 03:40 -0700
        Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 09:03 -0700
          Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-24 22:49 +0300
            Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-24 21:11 +0100
            Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-24 20:27 -0400
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                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-05-25 08:21 -0700
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 10:38 -0700
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                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-05-25 13:18 -0700
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-05-25 11:34 -0700
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                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-26 07:03 -0700
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 10:24 +1000
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-05-25 17:32 -0700
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 01:52 +1000
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-25 17:32 +0100
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-05-25 18:20 -0400
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-25 21:32 -0400
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        Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2014-05-24 21:44 +0200
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