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Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward

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Date Sat, 24 May 2014 09:03:11 -0700
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On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> wrote:
> blindanagram <noone@nowhere.net>:
> Instead of focusing on bringing legacy libraries to Python3 (for which
> there never seems to be a critical need), Python3 needs a brand new
> killer module/application/library that is only available on Python3.
>
> Asyncio is a baby step in that direction.

Yikes! Backwards incompatibility is a poor excuse for NIH syndrome.

Don't reinvent the wheel, please. If there's an existing
implementation of a thing, that can save you a lot of work. Even if it
ties you to Python 2, that's worth it, most of the time. If you want
to migrate to Python 3, help that library forward, rather than trying
to make some bespoke replacement you think will be a killer app.

-- Devin

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How keep Python 3 moving forward Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-23 21:16 +0100
  Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-05-23 19:57 -0400
    Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-05-23 17:27 -0700
      Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-05-23 21:12 -0400
    Python 3 support for Fabric (was: How keep Python 3 moving forward) Ben Finney <ben@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-05-24 14:29 +1000
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    Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2014-05-25 11:25 +0200
      Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-05-25 14:03 -0400
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          Re: Build tools, and Python 3 dependencies (was: How keep Python 3 moving forward) Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-05-26 08:44 -0400
            Re: Build tools, and Python 3 dependencies (was: How keep Python 3 moving forward) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-27 02:59 +0000
              Re: Build tools, and Python 3 dependencies (was: How keep Python 3 moving forward) Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 20:54 -0700
            Re: Build tools, and Python 3 dependencies (was: How keep Python 3 moving forward) Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-27 03:06 +0000
  Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-24 00:13 -0700
    Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward blindanagram <noone@nowhere.net> - 2014-05-24 15:35 +0100
      Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-24 12:59 +0300
        Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 03:40 -0700
        Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 09:03 -0700
          Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-05-24 22:49 +0300
            Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-24 21:11 +0100
            Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-24 20:27 -0400
              Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-24 23:43 -0700
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-05-25 08:21 -0700
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2014-05-25 10:38 -0700
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-05-25 18:17 +0000
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-05-25 13:56 -0500
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-05-25 13:18 -0700
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-05-25 11:34 -0700
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-25 21:24 +0100
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-05-25 18:22 -0400
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-26 00:09 +0100
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-05-26 07:03 -0700
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 10:24 +1000
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-05-25 17:32 -0700
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-05-26 01:52 +1000
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-05-25 17:32 +0100
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-05-25 18:20 -0400
                Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-05-25 21:32 -0400
        Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-05-24 12:08 -0700
        Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2014-05-24 21:44 +0200
      Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Travis Griggs <travisgriggs@gmail.com> - 2014-05-24 11:02 -0700
      Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2014-05-25 20:45 -0400
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