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| From | Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Subject | Re: how to avoid leading white spaces |
| Date | 2011-06-06 07:11 +0000 |
| Organization | None of the Above |
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In article <ef48ad50-da06-47a8-978a-47d6f4271e75@d28g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
rurpy@yahoo.com <rurpy@yahoo.com> wrote (in part):
[mass snippage]
>What I mean is that I see regexes as being an extremely small,
>highly restricted, domain specific language targeted specifically
>at describing text patterns. Thus they do that job better than
>than trying to describe patterns implicitly with Python code.
Indeed.
Kernighan has often used / supported the idea of "little languages";
see:
http://www.princeton.edu/~hos/frs122/precis/kernighan.htm
In this case, regular expressions form a "little language" that is
quite well suited to some lexical analysis problems. Since the
language is (modulo various concerns) targeted at the "right level",
as it were, it becomes easy (modulo various concerns :-) ) to
express the desired algorithm precisely yet concisely.
On the whole, this is a good thing.
The trick lies in knowing when it *is* the right level, and how to
use the language of REs.
>On 06/03/2011 08:05 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> If regexes were more readable, as proposed by Wall, that would go
>> a long way to reducing my suspicion of them.
"Suspicion" seems like an odd term here.
Still, it is true that something (whether it be use of re.VERBOSE,
and whitespace-and-comments, or some New and Improved Syntax) could
help. Dense and complex REs are quite powerful, but may also contain
and hide programming mistakes. The ability to describe what is
intended -- which may differ from what is written -- is useful.
As an interesting aside, even without the re.VERBOSE flag, one can
build complex, yet reasonably-understandable, REs in Python, by
breaking them into individual parts and giving them appropriate
names. (This is also possible in perl, although the perl syntax
makes it less obvious, I think.)
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Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Rebert <clp2@rebertia.com> - 2011-06-01 10:11 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-01 12:39 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Karim <karim.liateni@free.fr> - 2011-06-01 22:34 +0200
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-02 13:21 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-06-02 21:57 -0400
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-06-03 03:41 +0100
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-06-03 02:58 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-06-02 23:44 -0400
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-03 13:52 +1000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-03 13:54 +1000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-06-03 04:30 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-03 14:11 +0100
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-03 14:18 +0100
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-06-04 13:41 +1200
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-04 20:44 +0100
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ian <hobson42@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 22:04 +0100
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-06-09 02:32 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Thorsten Kampe <thorsten@thorstenkampe.de> - 2011-06-03 10:32 +0200
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-03 05:51 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-03 13:17 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-03 08:14 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-03 14:25 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net> - 2011-06-03 10:58 -0400
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-03 12:29 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-03 20:49 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-06-03 21:45 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-06-03 15:11 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-06-03 23:38 +0100
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-05 22:47 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-05 22:44 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-06 16:08 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 10:29 -0600
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-06 17:17 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 11:40 -0600
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-06 17:56 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-06-06 10:48 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 11:42 -0600
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-04 02:05 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-06-04 03:24 +0100
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-04 04:59 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-06-03 22:30 -0400
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-04 05:14 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-06-04 09:39 -0400
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-05 00:44 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-06-04 09:36 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-04 21:02 +0100
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-05 01:01 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-04 16:04 +1000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-05 23:03 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-06-06 07:11 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 11:51 +0300
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 19:01 +1000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 07:33 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-07 11:37 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-06-07 20:30 -0400
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-08 07:38 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 09:14 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 01:27 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-06 15:29 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 10:06 -0600
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-07 09:00 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2011-06-08 09:01 +0000
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-08 07:39 -0700
Re: how to avoid leading white spaces rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-06-05 04:17 -0700
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