Re: how to avoid leading white spaces

From	"rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: how to avoid leading white spaces
Date	2011-06-03 08:14 -0700
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On 06/03/2011 07:17 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote:
> On 2011-06-03, rurpy@yahoo.com <rurpy@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The other tradeoff, applying both to Perl and Python is with
>> maintenance.  As mentioned above, even when today's
>> requirements can be solved with some code involving several
>> string functions, indexes, and conditionals, when those
>> requirements change, it is usually a lot harder to modify that
>> code than a RE.
>>
>> In short, although your observations are true to some extent,
>> they are not sufficient to justify the anti-RE attitude often
>> seen here.
>
> Very good article. Thanks. I mostly wanted to combat the notion
> that that the alleged anti-RE attitude here might be caused by an
> opposition to Perl culture.
>
> I contend that the anti-RE attitude sometimes seen here is caused
> by dissatisfaction with regexes in general combined with an
> aversion to the re module. I agree that it's not that bad, but
> it's clunky enough that it does contribute to making it my last
> resort.

But I questioned the reasons given (not as efficient, not built
in, not often needed) for dissatisfaction with REs.[*]  If those
reasons are not strong, then is not their Perl-smell still a leading
candidate for explaining the anti-RE attitude here?

Of course the whole question, lacking some serious group-psychological
investigation, is pure speculation anyway.

----
[*] A reason for not using REs not mentioned yet is that REs take
some time to learn.  Thus, although most people will know how to use
Python string methods, only a subset of those will be familiar with
REs.  But that doesn't seem like a reason for RE bashing either
since REs are easier to learn than SQL and one frequently sees
recommendations here to use sqlite.

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Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Rebert <clp2@rebertia.com> - 2011-06-01 10:11 -0700
  Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-01 12:39 -0700
    Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Karim <karim.liateni@free.fr> - 2011-06-01 22:34 +0200
    Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-02 13:21 +0000
      Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-06-02 21:57 -0400
        Re: how to avoid leading white spaces MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-06-03 03:41 +0100
        Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-06-03 02:58 +0000
          Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-06-02 23:44 -0400
            Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-03 13:52 +1000
            Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-03 13:54 +1000
            Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-06-03 04:30 +0000
              Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-03 14:11 +0100
          Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-03 14:18 +0100
          Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-06-04 13:41 +1200
            Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-04 20:44 +0100
          Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ian <hobson42@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 22:04 +0100
            Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-06-09 02:32 +0000
        Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Thorsten Kampe <thorsten@thorstenkampe.de> - 2011-06-03 10:32 +0200
      Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-03 05:51 -0700
        Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-03 13:17 +0000
          Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-03 08:14 -0700
        Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-03 14:25 +0000
          Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net> - 2011-06-03 10:58 -0400
          Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-03 12:29 -0700
            Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-03 20:49 +0000
              Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-06-03 21:45 +0000
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-06-03 15:11 -0700
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-06-03 23:38 +0100
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-05 22:47 -0700
              Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-05 22:44 -0700
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-06 16:08 +0000
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 10:29 -0600
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-06 17:17 +0000
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 11:40 -0600
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2011-06-06 17:56 +0000
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-06-06 10:48 -0700
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 11:42 -0600
            Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-04 02:05 +0000
              Re: how to avoid leading white spaces MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2011-06-04 03:24 +0100
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-04 04:59 +0000
              Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-06-03 22:30 -0400
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-04 05:14 +0000
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-06-04 09:39 -0400
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-05 00:44 +0000
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-06-04 09:36 -0700
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-04 21:02 +0100
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-05 01:01 +0000
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-04 16:04 +1000
              Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-05 23:03 -0700
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Torek <nospam@torek.net> - 2011-06-06 07:11 +0000
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 11:51 +0300
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 19:01 +1000
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 07:33 -0700
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-07 11:37 -0700
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-06-07 20:30 -0400
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-08 07:38 -0700
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 09:14 -0700
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 01:27 -0700
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-06 15:29 +0000
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 10:06 -0600
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-07 09:00 -0700
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2011-06-08 09:01 +0000
                Re: how to avoid leading white spaces "rurpy@yahoo.com" <rurpy@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-08 07:39 -0700
          Re: how to avoid leading white spaces rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-06-05 04:17 -0700

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