Path: csiph.com!optima2.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!news.swapon.de!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Marko Rauhamaa Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Do I need license to release the Python version of old BASIC games? Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:13:08 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <87fv5kogln.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <5587115E.30703@cdreimer.com> <87r3p4ok2d.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b7cb1518d23ec19d482dcc9c31d30fdd"; logging-data="13035"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+yKK/ISDrgegqxfsCOyKmG" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:D1HkLsne4oAXXvAO1UatobrPYX0= sha1:Xi6IntJNG6o+svx5TYecwEJvQ2I= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:92982 Michael Torrie : > On 06/21/2015 02:58 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> Converting BASIC games to Python results in derived works, which are >> under the original copyright of the BASIC games. >> >> [...] > > I disagree. Especially where the resulting python program is not a > transliteration (which it certainly won't be) of the original BASIC > programs. As well, these programs implement well-known algorithms and > games. There are only so many ways to implement certain algorithms, > and each implementation is going to be closely similar. The games and > algorithms in his BASIC programs are by no means original or not > well-known and well-discussed. The court will have to decide if the Python version is a reimplementation or a more or less direct translation of the original. > Also the quoted copyright notice is for the entire work, which is to say > the book. Chris is in no way reproducing the guy's text in whole or in > part--I note that the notice says nothing about fair use. Fair use is not granted. In United States copyright law, fair use is a doctrine that permits limited use of copyrighted material without acquiring permission from the rights holders. Again, whether a fair use defense applies in this case is for the courts to decide. My guess is it wouldn't apply here. Marko