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Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function

From Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function
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candide <candide@free.invalid> writes:

> First because I was doubting the true interest of the bool() type. In
> fact, it appears that it's _semantically_ a shortcut for
> True if x else False.

That bends my brain. Both ‘True’ and ‘False’ are instances of the ‘bool’
type. So of course the ‘bool’ constructor will return them. What is the
“shortcut” you refer to?

Remember, the point of a type is to encapsulate both behaviour and an
exclusive domain of possible values. The Boolean type is particularly
simple, so I don't see why you would be surprised that the behaviour of
the ‘bool’ constructor is simple – that's a feature of that type.

> In the orther hand, I'm builting a sort of documentation for learning
> Python.

Something different from <URL:http://docs.python.org/tutorial/>.

> In order to spell out the purposes of the bool() type, I guessed that
> giving an equivalence code could help.

The purpose of the ‘bool’ type is to have a data type which captures the
behaviour of only Boolean values, and no other values.

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Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function candide <candide@free.invalid> - 2011-04-16 22:24 +0200
  Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Chris Rebert <clp2@rebertia.com> - 2011-04-16 13:58 -0700
    Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-17 07:38 +1000
      Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function candide <candide@free.invalid> - 2011-04-17 01:51 +0200
        Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Chris Rebert <clp2@rebertia.com> - 2011-04-16 17:16 -0700
        Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-17 12:39 +1000
          Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function candide <candide@free.invalid> - 2011-04-17 10:38 +0200
            Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-17 18:46 +1000
              Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-04-18 12:12 +1200
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2011-04-18 12:58 -0700
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-04-19 12:18 +1200
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Christian Heimes <lists@cheimes.de> - 2011-04-19 03:39 +0200
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Kushal Kumaran <kushal.kumaran+python@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 11:53 +0530
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 14:23 +0000
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Jean-Paul Calderone <calderone.jeanpaul@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 08:43 -0700
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-04-20 11:59 +1200
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 16:26 +1000
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-04-19 08:43 +0000
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 19:00 +1000
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Westley Martínez <anikom15@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 06:43 -0700
            Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-17 19:46 +1000
              Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function candide <candide@free.invalid> - 2011-04-18 01:22 +0200
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-18 09:46 +1000
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-04-18 12:08 +1200
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-04-18 00:22 +0000
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 10:52 +1000
                Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-18 10:01 +0000
            Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> - 2011-04-17 21:11 +1100
      Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 10:45 +1100
        Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-18 10:36 +1000
      Re: Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 11:52 +1000
      Re: Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Dave Angel <davea@ieee.org> - 2011-04-17 21:46 -0400
      Re: Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 14:16 +1100
      Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2011-04-17 21:40 -0700
      Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 14:53 +1000
        Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2011-04-19 12:22 +1200
      Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Chris Rebert <clp2@rebertia.com> - 2011-04-17 22:49 -0700
        Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-04-18 06:14 +0000
      Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-18 16:03 +1000
  Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-17 07:13 +1000
    Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function candide <candide@free.invalid> - 2011-04-17 01:51 +0200
  Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function Raymond Hettinger <python@rcn.com> - 2011-04-18 01:33 -0700
    Re: Equivalent code to the bool() built-in function candide <candide@free.invalid> - 2011-04-18 11:19 +0200

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