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Re: Is the mailing list to usenet gateway borked?

From Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Is the mailing list to usenet gateway borked?
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Date 2011-06-22 10:49 +1000
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Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> writes:

> The last couple of messages on this list <python-list@python.org> show
> up fine on the mailman archives, but are empty posts on
> comp.lang.python. Is there a problem with the mail -> usenet gateway?

I don't see empty messages through Usenet.

However, at around the time you reported this, I started seeing some
(not many) messages each day with strange mangling of the header: the
Date field showing Unix epoch, the Subject field truncated, and the From
field showing the remainder from the Subject.

Another distortion is that the summary of message size (which I think is
derived from the Lines field) shows zero for all those problematic
messages. That may indicate a link between the problems we're seeing.

For example:

=====
O  [20110621T054352:  2.0k: deathweaselx86      ]─── Is there any advantage or disadvantage to using sets over list comps to ensure a list
O  [20110621T111058:  2.8k: Steven D'Aprano     ]├─► [...]
O  [20110621T135956:  1.9k: rusi                ]└─► [...]
O  [19700101T100000:  0.0k: comps to ensure a li]*── Re: Is there any advantage or disadvantage to using sets over list
O  <19700101T100000:  0.0k: comps to ensure a li>  └─► [...]
O  [20110618T161430:  3.5k: Gregory Ewing       ]─── ANN: PyGUI 2.5.1
=====

The problematic messages in the above example are Message-ID:
<mailman.191.1308600028.1164.python-list@python.org> and
<mailman.213.1308627006.1164.python-list@python.org>. The messages, when
retrieved, have the right content and even the fields in the header
appear fine.

My news service for ‘comp.lang.python’ is currently provided from
‘astraweb.com’.

-- 
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Ben Finney

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Is the mailing list to usenet gateway borked? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-20 01:41 +0000
  Re: Is the mailing list to usenet gateway borked? Peter Pearson <ppearson@nowhere.invalid> - 2011-06-20 16:49 +0000
    Re: Is the mailing list to usenet gateway borked? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-06-20 23:49 +0000
      Re: Is the mailing list to usenet gateway borked? Peter Pearson <ppearson@nowhere.invalid> - 2011-06-21 16:58 +0000
  Re: Is the mailing list to usenet gateway borked? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2011-06-20 12:21 -0500
  Re: Is the mailing list to usenet gateway borked? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-06-22 10:49 +1000

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