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| From | Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Subject | Re: while expression feature proposal |
| References | <7xlietjjsd.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <20121026220338.GA25126@cskk.homeip.net> <mailman.2911.1351291717.27098.python-list@python.org> <508b25b4$0$29967$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| Date | 2012-10-26 20:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7x8vasziis.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> (permalink) |
| Organization | Nightsong/Fort GNOX |
Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> writes:
> There's no need for it *inside* of while expressions. It doesn't add to
> the expressiveness of the language, or increase the power of the
> language, or help people write correct code. It saves one trivial line of
> code in some, but not all, while loops, at the cost of increasing the
> complexity of the language and parser.
I'm maybe +0.25 on the suggestion but it does save more than one line in
the places where it's useful, plus improves clarity. You get to write
while (foo() as x) is not None:
...
instead of
while True:
x = foo()
if x is not None:
break
...
which is much uglier. Maybe there are even times when you want
while (left() as x) != (right() as y): ...
that is even messier when expanded out.
There was also the cascaded regexp match example, that happens regularly
in real code and that I've hacked various workarounds for, or wished for
a Maybe monad.
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Re: while expression feature proposal Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-10-24 16:54 -0600
Re: while expression feature proposal Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-24 16:08 -0700
Re: while expression feature proposal Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-10-24 17:39 -0600
Re: while expression feature proposal Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-10-25 09:21 +0200
Re: while expression feature proposal Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-10-25 12:12 +0200
Re: while expression feature proposal Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-10-25 10:36 -0600
Re: while expression feature proposal Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2012-10-25 22:49 +0200
Re: while expression feature proposal Dan Loewenherz <dloewenherz@gmail.com> - 2012-10-25 22:12 -0700
Re: while expression feature proposal Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-25 23:06 -0700
Re: while expression feature proposal Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-26 17:23 +1100
Re: while expression feature proposal Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-26 09:43 +0000
Re: while expression feature proposal Dan Loewenherz <dloewenherz@gmail.com> - 2012-10-26 08:29 -0700
Re: while expression feature proposal Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-10-26 09:42 -0600
Re: while expression feature proposal Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-26 09:10 -0700
Re: while expression feature proposal Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2012-10-27 09:03 +1100
Re: while expression feature proposal Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-10-26 16:48 -0600
Re: while expression feature proposal Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-27 00:07 +0000
Re: while expression feature proposal Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-10-26 20:43 -0700
Re: while expression feature proposal Tim Chase <sed@thechases.com> - 2012-10-26 18:26 -0500
Re: while expression feature proposal Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-10-26 19:41 -0400
Re: while expression feature proposal Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-10-26 19:19 -0400
Re: while expression feature proposal Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-10-27 11:42 +1100
Re: while expression feature proposal Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-10-26 19:12 -0400
Re: while expression feature proposal Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-10-27 00:18 +0000
Re: while expression feature proposal Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-10-26 20:27 -0400
Re: while expression feature proposal Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-10-27 14:15 -0500
Re: while expression feature proposal Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-10-26 19:51 -0400
Re: while expression feature proposal Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-10-25 10:47 -0600
Re: while expression feature proposal Paul Rudin <paul.nospam@rudin.co.uk> - 2012-10-25 10:35 +0100
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