Re: Language design

Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Date	2015-06-01 17:10 -0700
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Subject	Re: Language design
From	TheDoctor <dreamingforward@gmail.com>

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On Friday, September 13, 2013 at 12:08:04 AM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:23:21 -0700, Mark Janssen wrote:
> which would be silly. Only somebody who doesn't understand how 
> inheritance works in Python would do that. There's simply no need for it, 
> and in fact it would be actively harmful for larger hierarchies.
> 
> >>> But wait is it the "base" (at the bottom of the hierarchy) or is it
> >>> the "parent" at the top?  You see, you, like everyone else has been
> >>> using these terms loosely, confusing yourself.
> >>
> >> Depends on whether I'm standing on my head or not.
> >>
> >> Or more importantly, it depends on whether I visualise my hierarchy
> >> going top->down or bottom->up. Both are relevant, and both end up with
> >> the *exact same hierarchy* with only the direction reversed.
> > 
> > Ha,  "only the direction reversed".  That little directionality that
> > you're passing by so blithely is the difference between whether you're
> > talking about galaxies or atoms.
> 
> It makes no difference whether I write:
> 
>     atoms -> stars -> galaxies
> 
> or
> 
>     galaxies <- stars <- atoms
> 
> nor does it make any difference if I write the chain starting at the top 
> and pointing down, or at the bottom and pointing up.

Yes it does.  Ford IS-A Car, but Car IS-A Ford?  No.  Try reordering that one.

I see we've missed each other with our limitations to ASCII text, in ways that would have never happened had these conversations occurred in person.  Re-reading my texts, I see that I can easily confuse myself.

> "not someone wanting to understand the limitations of python..." -- are 
> you aware that I started this thread?

Yes, but did you?  LOL.

Mark

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Re: Language design TheDoctor <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-06-01 17:10 -0700
  Re: Language design Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-02 17:19 +1000
    Re: Language design Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-02 17:36 +1000
    Re: Language design "Dr. Bigcock" <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-06-02 11:09 -0700

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