Re: php license

From	VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.php
Subject	Re: php license
Date	2011-05-04 17:14 -0500
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Aleks Kleyn wrote:

> when I setup MSI file from  http://us3.php.net/downloads.php web site, it 
> shows license agreement which includes following text
> 
> 3. The name "PHP" must not be used to endorse or promote products
>      derived from this software without prior written permission. For
>      written permission, please contact group@php.net.

You cannot use PHP to build yet another programming language.  That is,
PHP cannot be the base for your new language without first getting
permission.  If you want to build something atop of PHP, like PHP-Plus,
then you have to ask because the founders of PHP probably don't want the
quality of their product polluted with bad projects that build up from
PHP as their base.

If you want to use their codebase for their PHP product in your
derivative product then you need permission.  Writing scripts that rely
on their interpreter to execute is NOT stealing the code of that
interpreter.

>   4. Products derived from this software may not be called "PHP", nor
>      may "PHP" appear in their name, without prior written permission
>      from group@php.net.  You may indicate that your software works in
>      conjunction with PHP by saying "Foo for PHP" instead of calling
>      it "PHP Foo" or "phpfoo"

You cannot use "PHP" in the product's title.  Something like
"PHPfantastic" is a no-no.  Just because you use PHP to code your
product doesn't grant you permission to use "PHP" (as a distinct
reference) in your product name.  "SLOPHP" for something related to HP
would be okay, however.

This is like a trademark.  A similar story is Radio Shack who
trademarked the "Shack" product and company name.  I remember one store
named "CD Shack" that lost the legal fight (the court proceedings lasted
all of 3 days).  "PHP" is already a product name.  You can't call your
product "Microsoft Word Lite" because you aren't Microsoft and Word is
*their* copyrighted code.  You could use "Thin Client for MS Word".  One
says MS Word is your product (and it is not) while the other says your
product is for use with someone else's product.

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