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| Started by | Mclaren Fan <himanshu1495@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2011-11-05 08:41 -0700 |
| Last post | 2011-11-06 19:39 +0000 |
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Code not working Mclaren Fan <himanshu1495@gmail.com> - 2011-11-05 08:41 -0700
Re: Code not working williamc <temp4@williamc.com> - 2011-11-05 12:10 -0400
Re: Code not working Jake Jarvis <pig_in_shoes@yahoo.com> - 2011-11-05 17:19 +0100
Re: Code not working Luuk <Luuk@invalid.lan> - 2011-11-05 17:15 +0100
Re: Code not working "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2011-11-05 19:56 +0200
Re: Code not working Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-05 21:34 +0100
Re: Code not working "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2011-11-05 23:11 +0200
Re: Code not working Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2011-11-06 01:06 +0100
Re: Code not working Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-06 21:11 +0100
Re: Code not working "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2011-11-06 22:59 +0200
Re: Code not working Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-07 00:12 +0100
Re: Code not working Dr J R Stockton <reply1144@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-11-06 19:53 +0000
Re: Code not working Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> - 2011-11-07 02:54 +0000
Re: Code not working Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2011-11-05 23:58 +0000
Re: Code not working Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-08 21:43 +0100
Re: Code not working Dr J R Stockton <reply1144@merlyn.demon.co.uk> - 2011-11-06 19:39 +0000
| From | Mclaren Fan <himanshu1495@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-05 08:41 -0700 |
| Subject | Code not working |
| Message-ID | <11359e10-c765-4434-ae51-703c99b5d60f@x36g2000prb.googlegroups.com> |
<html>
<head>
<title>a</title>
</head>
<body bgColor="white">
<script type="text/javscript">
function toogle() {
if (document.bgColor=='white') {
document.bgColor='red';
}
else if (document.bgColor=='red') {
document.bgColor='blue';
}
else {
document.bgColor='green';
}
}
</script>
Change Color
<input type="button" onClick="toogle()" value="change">
</body>
</html>
Not working the above code should change background color like a
toogler pleasehelp
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| From | williamc <temp4@williamc.com> |
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| Date | 2011-11-05 12:10 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <GYGdne8vgpue_SjTnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #8044 |
On 11/5/2011 11:41 AM, Mclaren Fan wrote:
> <html>
> <head>
> <title>a</title>
> </head>
> <body bgColor="white">
> <script type="text/javscript">
> function toogle() {
> if (document.bgColor=='white') {
> document.bgColor='red';
> }
> else if (document.bgColor=='red') {
> document.bgColor='blue';
> }
> else {
> document.bgColor='green';
> }
> }
> </script>
> Change Color
> <input type="button" onClick="toogle()" value="change">
> </body>
> </html>
> Not working the above code should change background color like a
> toogler pleasehelp
maybe you have a browser that doesn't support javscript?
--
-williamc
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| From | Jake Jarvis <pig_in_shoes@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2011-11-05 17:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <9hl60eF6h9U1@mid.uni-berlin.de> |
| In reply to | #8044 |
On 05.11.2011 16:41, Mclaren Fan wrote:
> <html>
> <head>
> <title>a</title>
> </head>
> <body bgColor="white">
> <script type="text/javscript">
^^^^
You have made a typo.
<snip>
--
Jake Jarvis
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| From | Luuk <Luuk@invalid.lan> |
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| Date | 2011-11-05 17:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <r14go8-eub.ln1@luuk.invalid.lan> |
| In reply to | #8044 |
On 05-11-2011 16:41, Mclaren Fan wrote:
> <html>
> <head>
> <title>a</title>
> </head>
> <body bgColor="white">
> <script type="text/javscript">
you are missing an 'a' in 'javascript'
> function toogle() {
> if (document.bgColor=='white') {
this will no be true, because document.bgColor will be '#ffffff' after
the page is loaded, because you set it to 'white'.......
> document.bgColor='red';
> }
> else if (document.bgColor=='red') {
> document.bgColor='blue';
> }
> else {
> document.bgColor='green';
> }
> }
> </script>
> Change Color
> <input type="button" onClick="toogle()" value="change">
> </body>
> </html>
> Not working the above code should change background color like a
> toogler pleasehelp
--
Luuk
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| From | "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-05 19:56 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <j93tcs$jcg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8047 |
11/5/2011 6:15 PM, Luuk wrote:
>> <script type="text/javscript">
>
> you are missing an 'a' in 'javascript'
This illustrates why it is better to write just <script>, unless company
police forces you to conform to formal specs that make the type
attribute required (for no good reason).
>> function toogle() {
>> if (document.bgColor=='white') {
>
> this will no be true, because document.bgColor will be '#ffffff' after
> the page is loaded, because you set it to 'white'.......
This depends on the browser. That's why it is better to store the
current state encoded in a known way, rather than rely on what the
browser gets out of an attribute like bgColor="white".
>> Not working the above code should change background color like a
>> toogler pleasehelp
I have no idea of what "toogle" means. But "toggle" means switching
between _two_ states. This might be important to the OP who appears to
have some homework on an introductory course on fundamentals of elements
of basics of JavaScript programming (taught the wrong way as usual and
probably carrying a hyperbolic name). (People who have serious problems
usually post a URL.)
--
Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-05 21:34 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1996701.i4alEN71Z9@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #8048 |
Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > 11/5/2011 6:15 PM, Luuk wrote: >>> <script type="text/javscript"> >> you are missing an 'a' in 'javascript' > > This illustrates why it is better to write just <script>, unless company > police forces you to conform to formal specs that make the type > attribute required (for no good reason). No, it illustrates that a markup validator is to be used (before publishing content). An omitted `type' attribute may mean that the script is not executed or that its content is regarded a syntax error. Especially when a `language' attribute different from "JavaScript" (any letter-case variant) has been used before. PointedEars -- Danny Goodman's books are out of date and teach practices that are positively harmful for cross-browser scripting. -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <cife6q$253$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk> (2004)
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| From | "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-05 23:11 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <j948qn$vn6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8049 |
11/5/2011 10:34 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn trolled: > Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > >> 11/5/2011 6:15 PM, Luuk wrote: >>>> <script type="text/javscript"> >>> you are missing an 'a' in 'javascript' >> >> This illustrates why it is better to write just<script>, unless company >> police forces you to conform to formal specs that make the type >> attribute required (for no good reason). > > No, it illustrates that a markup validator is to be used (before publishing > content). No markup validator reports <script type="text/javscript"> as an error (because it is not a reportable markup error). A novice might get this wrong, but you pretend to be an expert. > An omitted `type' attribute may mean that the script is not executed or that > its content is regarded a syntax error. In which browser? As usual, you mention browser behavior without specifying anything specific. > Especially when a `language' > attribute different from "JavaScript" (any letter-case variant) has been > used before. No such attribute was used, except in your dreams and in coding style of the 1990s. -- Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
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| From | Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> |
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| Date | 2011-11-06 01:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <m2vcqyazcs.fsf@nntp.bednarz.nl> |
| In reply to | #8058 |
"Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> writes: > 11/5/2011 10:34 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn trolled: > No markup validator reports <script type="text/javscript"> as an error > (because it is not a reportable markup error). A novice might get this > wrong, but you pretend to be an expert. Please, let’s not split hairs here.
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-06 21:11 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <2313595.P6UQk0Ptvu@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #8058 |
Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn [wrote]:
>> Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
>>> 11/5/2011 6:15 PM, Luuk wrote:
>>>>> <script type="text/javscript">
>>>> you are missing an 'a' in 'javascript'
>>> This illustrates why it is better to write just<script>, unless company
>>> police forces you to conform to formal specs that make the type
>>> attribute required (for no good reason).
>>
>> No, it illustrates that a markup validator is to be used (before
>> publishing content).
>
> No markup validator reports <script type="text/javscript"> as an error
AISB, you will have to prove your assertions if you want to be taken
seriously.
> (because it is not a reportable markup error).
You are wrong.
The HTML 4.01 and 5 (Draft) Specifications state that the value of the
`type' attribute of the `script' element must be a "(valid MIME/)content
type" [1,2] (from here: MIME type). A valid MIME type should not only
conform to syntactical requirements for MIME types (although the HTML5 draft
states that this suffices [2]), but it should also be registered with IANA
[10], which limits the acceptable attribute values.
The set of MIME types that are reasonable to use here is further limited by
the element type. A markup validator could (indeed, it should) report at
least a warning for a non-registered MIME type such as "text/javscript", as
their use is "discouraged" by RFC 2616 [3], which HTML 4.01 through RFCs
2045 and 2046 [4], and HTML5 directly [5], refer to.
Since the W3C Markup Validator already does experimental markup validation
that is not based on a DTD, for HTML5 [6] (because there is no HTML5 DTD
[7]), it is not too much of a stretch to expect it to report that as an
error or at least issue a warning. Unfortunately, it does neither for now;
but other validators might do that already, and the W3C Markup Validator
could do that in the future. The set of registered MIME types, especially
the set of programming languages that can be used for client-side scripting
from within (X)HTML (or SVG), does not change so often to make it
unfeasible.
In addition to hard-coded validation, it is also possible to validate XHTML,
the XHTML syntax of HTML5 or any other XML-based document against an XML
Schema Definition (cf. [8,9]). XML Schema allows the definition of
restrictions for attribute values so that `type="text/javscript"' would not
pass validation. For a simple example ([8] slightly adapted):
…
<xs:simpleType name="ScriptType">
<xs:annotation>
<xs:documentation>
Media types for ECMAScript implementations, as per [RFC 4329]
</xs:documentation>
</xs:annotation>
<xs:restriction base="xs:string">
<xsd:enumeration value="application/ecmascript"/>
<xsd:enumeration value="application/javascript"/>
<xsd:enumeration value="text/ecmascript"/>
<xsd:enumeration value="text/javascript"/>
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
…
<xs:element name="script">
<xs:annotation>
<xs:documentation>
script statements, which may include CDATA sections
</xs:documentation>
</xs:annotation>
<xs:complexType mixed="true">
<xs:attribute name="id" type="xs:ID"/>
<xs:attribute name="charset" type="Charset"/>
<xs:attribute name="type" use="required" type="ScriptType"/>
<xs:attribute name="src" type="URI"/>
<xs:attribute name="defer">
<xs:simpleType>
<xs:restriction base="xs:token">
<xs:enumeration value="defer"/>
</xs:restriction>
</xs:simpleType>
</xs:attribute>
<xs:attribute ref="xml:space" fixed="preserve"/>
</xs:complexType>
</xs:element>
For maximum flexibility, such a Schema or an equivalent list of acceptable
MIME types could be generated from [10] or resources such as /etc/mime.types
dynamically, or updated regularly.
So in fact there are various ways, including those mentioned, that allow
such errors in attribute values to be flagged upon markup validation.
PointedEars
___________
[1] <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/scripts.html#adef-type-SCRIPT>
[2] <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/scripting-1.html#attr-script-type>
[3] <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-3.7>
[4] <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/types.html#h-6.7>
[5] <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/infrastructure.html#valid-mime-type>
[6] <http://validator.w3.org/whatsnew.html>, "2008-11-20 — 0.8.4 release"
[7] <http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/syntax.html#the-doctype>
[8] <http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1-schema/>
[9] <http://schneegans.de/sv/>
[10] <http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/index.html>
--
Danny Goodman's books are out of date and teach practices that are
positively harmful for cross-browser scripting.
-- Richard Cornford, cljs, <cife6q$253$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk> (2004)
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| From | "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-06 22:59 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <j96sg0$h28$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8088 |
11/6/2011 10:11 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn trolled: >> No markup validator reports <script type="text/javscript"> as an error > > AISB, you will have to prove your assertions if you want to be taken > seriously. You made a claim, you prove it. Of course you cannot, hence you babble in your trolling style. >> (because it is not a reportable markup error). > > You are wrong. You could prove me wrong if you cited a specification or mentioned a single validator, or even a linter called a "validator", if that were possible. But it isn't, so you keep trolling with irrelevant remarks and "theories." > So in fact there are various ways, including those mentioned, that allow > such errors in attribute values to be flagged upon markup validation. Are you saying that you could, in theory, create some software you call as validator and that would give the report you referred to? But you just couldn't "bother". I'm not surprised. So instead of throwing some list of irrelevant URLs at us, can you specify any "validator" that gives the report you referred to, even under a most liberal interpretation of "validator"? Consider your trolling to have been exposed. -- Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-07 00:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20322927.VN2gpG6Qkq@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #8089 |
Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> 11/6/2011 10:11 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn trolled:
>>> No markup validator reports <script type="text/javscript"> as an error
>> AISB, you will have to prove your assertions if you want to be taken
>> seriously.
>
> You made a claim, you prove it.
I have made no claim, you did. The claim you made is quoted (by you) above.
You will still have to prove that, or retract the claim, if you want to be
taken seriously.
>>> (because it is not a reportable markup error).
>> You are wrong.
>
> You could prove me wrong if you cited a specification or mentioned a
> single validator, or even a linter called a "validator", if that were
> possible. […]
No, I have already proven you wrong, pointing out what is already possible
to make this a reportable markup error. Possibilities that you were either
not aware of or purposely neglected to consider because that fit your
argument.
PointedEars
--
var bugRiddenCrashPronePieceOfJunk = (
navigator.userAgent.indexOf('MSIE 5') != -1
&& navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mac') != -1
) // Plone, register_function.js:16
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| From | Dr J R Stockton <reply1144@merlyn.demon.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-06 19:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2uWCSrIUXutOFwud@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid> |
| In reply to | #8049 |
In comp.lang.javascript message <1996701.i4alEN71Z9@PointedEars.de>, Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:34:47, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> posted: >Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > >> 11/5/2011 6:15 PM, Luuk wrote: >>>> <script type="text/javscript"> >>> you are missing an 'a' in 'javascript' >> >> This illustrates why it is better to write just <script>, unless company >> police forces you to conform to formal specs that make the type >> attribute required (for no good reason). > >No, it illustrates that a markup validator is to be used (before publishing >content). Not very well. Using Opera context-menu Validate, W3 appears to accept '<script type="text/javscript">'. For the OP: When a function shows no sign of functioning, the first thing to do is to make sure that it is being read, for example by inserting ... // ... is a literal and checking that the error console does not get a report of that. Then change ... to ying-tong-iddle-I-po which almost certainly will show an error on execution. If an entire script shows no sign of working, insert a magic word at its beginning, and check the console. Outside the Principality at least, the word "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch" should work too. -- (c) John Stockton, nr London, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike 6.05 WinXP. Web <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQ-type topics, acronyms, and links. Command-prompt MiniTrue is useful for viewing/searching/altering files. Free, DOS/Win/UNIX now 2.0.6; see <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/pc-links.htm>.
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| From | Mike Duffy <Use_guestbook_page@website.in.sig> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-07 02:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <Xns9F95DEE148F17invalidcom@94.75.214.39> |
| In reply to | #8094 |
Dr J R Stockton <reply1144@merlyn.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:2uWCSrIUXutOFwud@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid: > Outside the Principality at least, the word > "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch" should > work too. I'm curious, Dr. Stockton. In which field of study do you hold your Doctorate? -- http://pages.videotron.ca/duffym/index.htm#
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| From | Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-05 23:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <4eb5cd88$0$28441$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews.com> |
| In reply to | #8044 |
On Sat, 05 Nov 2011 08:41:13 -0700, Mclaren Fan wrote:
> Not working the above code should change background color like a toogler
> pleasehelp
1) the content attribute of the script element needs to be a recognised
script language. I've never heard of javscript!
2) is bgColor a settable property of the javascript document object?
hint: [element].style.backgroundColor = value;
How to find the body element:
var body = document.getElementsByTagName("body")[0];
http://www.sined.co.uk/tmp/toogle.htm
Rgds
Denis McMahon
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| From | Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-08 21:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1933274.nKmheAe9J7@PointedEars.de> |
| In reply to | #8061 |
Denis McMahon wrote:
> Mclaren Fan wrote:
>> Not working the above code should change background color like a toogler
>> pleasehelp
>
> 1) the content attribute of the script element needs to be a recognised
> script language. I've never heard of javscript!
The `script' element does not have a `content' attribute. It has a `type'
attribute, for example.
> How to find the body element:
>
> var body = document.getElementsByTagName("body")[0];
Because
var body = document.body;
is too simple, too compatible or too efficient?
PointedEars
--
var bugRiddenCrashPronePieceOfJunk = (
navigator.userAgent.indexOf('MSIE 5') != -1
&& navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mac') != -1
) // Plone, register_function.js:16
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| From | Dr J R Stockton <reply1144@merlyn.demon.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2011-11-06 19:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <L9D9GqGBKutOFwIu@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid> |
| In reply to | #8044 |
In comp.lang.javascript message <11359e10-c765-4434-ae51-703c99b5d60f@x3
6g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, Sat, 5 Nov 2011 08:41:13, Mclaren Fan
<himanshu1495@gmail.com> posted:
><html>
><head>
><title>a</title>
></head>
><body bgColor="white">
><script type="text/javscript">
>function toogle() {
>if (document.bgColor=='white') {
>document.bgColor='red';
>}
>else if (document.bgColor=='red') {
>document.bgColor='blue';
>}
>else {
>document.bgColor='green';
>}
>}
></script>
>Change Color
><input type="button" onClick="toogle()" value="change">
></body>
></html>
>Not working the above code should change background color like a
>toogler pleasehelp
Your WORST error is that you were not testing in a browser with error
console displayed (or if you did, not reporting what was reported).
Other errors, not affecting the results of your test, can be found with
W3's downloadable TIDY, and with <http://validator.w3.org/>.
There is often something to be said for using non-words as identifiers;
but neither "toogler" nor "pleasehelp" are English words - to say
nothing of "Color".
--
(c) John Stockton, nr London UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk IE8 FF3 Op12 Sf5 Cr12
news:comp.lang.javascript FAQ <http://www.jibbering.com/faq/index.html>.
<http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/js-index.htm> jscr maths, dates, sources.
<http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> TP/BP/Delphi/jscr/&c, FAQ items, links.
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