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Re: How to learn this stuff?

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On 19/11/2011 18:31, J.R. wrote:
> On 19/11/2011 16:14, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <pp9fc7tjr2orvqj04407i0lph6edphlo5c@4ax.com>,
>> javascript_stumbler <stumbler@no.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Years ago I started trying to learn Javascript. As I learned I found
>>> that lots of people were just keeping Javascript turned off on their
>>> browsers. This was pretty discouraging so after learning very little
>>> Javascript I just didn't bother anymore. My static HTML pages with
>>> some very tiny bits of rudimentary Javascript were good enough.
>>>
>>> At this point I want to make Web pages that are less static. So I want
>>> to see about learning Javascript a lot better than I had done before.
>>>
>>> The books I used then, and still have, are:
>>>
>>> "Javascript Bible 3rd Edition" by Danny Goodman (c) 1998, published by
>>> IDG Books,
>>>
>>> "Javascript The Definitive Guide Third Edition" by David Flanagan
>>> (c)1998 published by O'Reilly.
>>
>> Pay no attention to anyone who says either of these books is useless.
>> You should, however, IMO, get the latest editions of each. Goodman's
>> book comes with a CD that has extra chapters, and also examples you can
>> look at and try.
>>
>
> I'm sorry to disagree with you but Danny Goodman's [cook]book is some of
> the worst books on JavaScript that I have ever read, specially when it
> comes down to cross-browser script recipes: the scripts about Ajax and
> animation, for instance, are of no use in production. Although some
> chapters are okay, I'd suggest that you forget it!
>
> Some other good books that I own and recommend (but don't put too much
> trust in them, because even good books have their own mistakes): Douglas
> Crockford - The Good Parts; Stoyan Stefanov - JS Patterns. You may find
> some interesting discussions / reviews about Crockford's book in here
> [c.l.js].
>
> Don't forget to download and have your own copy of the latest ECMAScript
> Language Specification:
> <http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-262.htm>
>

I'd also suggest reading the c.l.js FAQ about recommended books:
<http://www.jibbering.com/faq/#books>

Richard Cornford once said that Flanagan's book is the "least bad 
JavaScript book" to be recommended:
<http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/msg/6a6bf6e61abe2363>

-- 
Joao Rodrigues (J.R.)

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How to learn this stuff? javascript_stumbler <stumbler@no.invalid> - 2011-11-19 08:20 -0500
  Re: How to learn this stuff? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2011-11-19 18:14 +0000
    Re: How to learn this stuff? "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2011-11-19 18:31 -0200
      Re: How to learn this stuff? Matt McDonald <matt@fortybelow.ca> - 2011-11-19 17:07 -0700
      Re: How to learn this stuff? "J.R." <groups_jr-1@yahoo.com.br> - 2011-11-22 03:07 -0200
        Re: How to learn this stuff? Matt McDonald <matt@fortybelow.ca> - 2011-11-22 09:48 -0700
          Re: How to learn this stuff? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-11-22 19:47 +0100
          Re: How to learn this stuff? John G Harris <john@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2011-11-23 16:23 +0000
  Re: How to learn this stuff? "P E Schoen" <paul@pstech-inc.com> - 2011-11-19 16:34 -0500
  Re: How to learn this stuff? qulinxao <qulinxao@gmail.com> - 2011-11-20 10:47 -0800

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