Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "J.R." Newsgroups: comp.lang.javascript Subject: Re: How to learn this stuff? Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 03:07:33 -0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: edb3lPNLwDIT/BKKc/Xuzw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.javascript:8519 On 19/11/2011 18:31, J.R. wrote: > On 19/11/2011 16:14, Tim Streater wrote: >> In article , >> javascript_stumbler wrote: >> >>> Years ago I started trying to learn Javascript. As I learned I found >>> that lots of people were just keeping Javascript turned off on their >>> browsers. This was pretty discouraging so after learning very little >>> Javascript I just didn't bother anymore. My static HTML pages with >>> some very tiny bits of rudimentary Javascript were good enough. >>> >>> At this point I want to make Web pages that are less static. So I want >>> to see about learning Javascript a lot better than I had done before. >>> >>> The books I used then, and still have, are: >>> >>> "Javascript Bible 3rd Edition" by Danny Goodman (c) 1998, published by >>> IDG Books, >>> >>> "Javascript The Definitive Guide Third Edition" by David Flanagan >>> (c)1998 published by O'Reilly. >> >> Pay no attention to anyone who says either of these books is useless. >> You should, however, IMO, get the latest editions of each. Goodman's >> book comes with a CD that has extra chapters, and also examples you can >> look at and try. >> > > I'm sorry to disagree with you but Danny Goodman's [cook]book is some of > the worst books on JavaScript that I have ever read, specially when it > comes down to cross-browser script recipes: the scripts about Ajax and > animation, for instance, are of no use in production. Although some > chapters are okay, I'd suggest that you forget it! > > Some other good books that I own and recommend (but don't put too much > trust in them, because even good books have their own mistakes): Douglas > Crockford - The Good Parts; Stoyan Stefanov - JS Patterns. You may find > some interesting discussions / reviews about Crockford's book in here > [c.l.js]. > > Don't forget to download and have your own copy of the latest ECMAScript > Language Specification: > > I'd also suggest reading the c.l.js FAQ about recommended books: Richard Cornford once said that Flanagan's book is the "least bad JavaScript book" to be recommended: -- Joao Rodrigues (J.R.)