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Nslookup

Started byJoe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com>
First post2011-05-16 05:39 -0700
Last post2011-05-17 17:48 +0100
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  Nslookup Joe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-16 05:39 -0700
    Re: Nslookup "Fred Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> - 2011-05-16 14:56 +0200
      Re: Nslookup Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-16 13:22 -0400
        Re: Nslookup red floyd <redfloyd@gmail.com> - 2011-05-16 16:06 -0700
          Re: Nslookup Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-16 21:15 -0400
            Re: Nslookup bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> - 2011-05-18 09:38 +0100
              Re: Nslookup Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-18 13:13 -0400
                Re: Nslookup Michael Doubez <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-05-18 14:26 -0700
                  Re: Nslookup Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-18 18:26 -0400
                    Re: Nslookup thingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m> - 2011-05-19 01:27 -0400
                      Re: Nslookup Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2011-05-19 10:01 +0200
                        Re: Nslookup thingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m> - 2011-05-19 12:40 -0400
                          Re: Nslookup dougatmilmacdotcom@example.com (Doug Miller) - 2011-05-19 17:15 +0000
                            Re: Nslookup thingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m> - 2011-05-19 13:25 -0400
                          Re: Nslookup Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-19 13:45 -0400
                            Re: Nslookup thingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m> - 2011-05-19 14:04 -0400
                            Re: Nslookup dougatmilmacdotcom@example.com (Doug Miller) - 2011-05-19 18:31 +0000
                              Re: Nslookup thingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m> - 2011-05-19 14:45 -0400
                              Re: Nslookup Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-19 21:43 -0400
                                Re: Nslookup thingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m> - 2011-05-20 00:07 -0400
                      Re: Nslookup The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-19 11:19 +0100
                    Re: Nslookup Michael Doubez <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-05-19 00:42 -0700
                      Re: Nslookup Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-19 10:03 -0400
                        Re: Nslookup thingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m> - 2011-05-19 12:44 -0400
                      Re: Nslookup Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-19 10:08 -0400
                        Re: Nslookup Michael Doubez <michael.doubez@free.fr> - 2011-05-20 00:55 -0700
                Re: Nslookup bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> - 2011-05-19 09:33 +0100
                  Re: Nslookup The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-19 11:21 +0100
          Re: Nslookup Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-16 22:24 -0400
            Re: Nslookup Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-17 00:19 -0400
              Re: Nslookup Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-17 07:01 -0400
                Re: Nslookup Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-05-17 07:22 -0400
                  Re: Nslookup The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-17 14:07 +0100
                    Re: Nslookup Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-17 12:32 -0400
                Re: Nslookup Bill B <me@privacy.net> - 2011-05-17 07:29 -0400
                  Re: Nslookup Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-17 08:18 -0400
                    Re: Nslookup Bill B <me@privacy.net> - 2011-05-17 08:30 -0400
                      Re: Nslookup Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-17 10:31 -0400
                        Re: Nslookup Bill B <me@privacy.net> - 2011-05-17 11:10 -0400
                          Re: Nslookup The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-17 16:20 +0100
                          Re: Nslookup Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2011-05-17 12:31 -0400
                            Re: Nslookup Tim Streater <timstreater@waitrose.com> - 2011-05-17 17:55 +0100
                  Re: Nslookup The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-17 14:08 +0100
    Re: Nslookup The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-05-16 17:23 +0100
    Re: Nslookup Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-17 09:06 +1200
    Re: Nslookup Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-05-16 21:36 -0700
      Re: Nslookup Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-17 16:50 +1200
        Re: Nslookup Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> - 2011-05-16 23:02 -0700
          Re: Nslookup Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-17 19:09 +1200
            Re: Nslookup Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-05-17 08:52 +0000
              Re: Nslookup Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-05-18 13:07 +1200
            Re: Nslookup RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@spamweary.invalid> - 2011-05-17 17:48 +0100

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#4158 — Nslookup

FromJoe Snodgrass <joe.snod@yahoo.com>
Date2011-05-16 05:39 -0700
SubjectNslookup
Message-ID<9973d98a-f6db-4908-8651-575affbfbdf4@q32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
you find out what other DNS servers are available?  TIA.

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#4159

From"Fred Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl>
Date2011-05-16 14:56 +0200
Message-ID<iqr6tm$f1d$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#4158
"Joe Snodgrass" <joe.snod@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:9973d98a-f6db-4908-8651-575affbfbdf4@q32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
> you find out what other DNS servers are available?  TIA.


Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation with C++, 
php, or java.
nslookup is deprecated. Use dig.
Lookup ns records to find DNS servers. 

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#4166

FromLew <noone@lewscanon.com>
Date2011-05-16 13:22 -0400
Message-ID<iqrmg4$lfh$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#4159
Fred Zwarts wrote:
Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.

> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation with C++,
> php, or java [sic].

Really?  You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues as a 
programmer?  Does your favorite programming language exist in a vacuum where 
computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?

I should think a real programmer would find the relationship obvious.

> nslookup is deprecated. Use dig.
> Lookup ns records to find DNS servers.

Maybe, and this is generally true at least in Java's case, because he's 
dealing with an environment where networking is a vital part of the 
programming requirements?  Don't PHP and C++ programmers ever have to deal 
with networking issues like that?  Isn't getting your program actually to run 
in the desired environment an essential part of the programmer's skill set?

You will note, I'm sure, that at least the Java newsgroup is geared to the 
programmer, not just the language as such, and Java programmers being 
generally a pragmatic bunch generally like their software to actually deploy 
and do useful things.  I find the question entirely on topic.

-- 
Lew
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg

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#4178

Fromred floyd <redfloyd@gmail.com>
Date2011-05-16 16:06 -0700
Message-ID<a9241ef0-62aa-486a-92db-8e31b91aa324@w21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#4166
On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew <no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>
> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>
> >> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
> >> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
> > Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation with C++,
> > php, or java [sic].
>
> Really?  You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues as a
> programmer?  Does your favorite programming language exist in a vacuum where
> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>

I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I knew
my baker
drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.

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#4183

FromLew <noone@lewscanon.com>
Date2011-05-16 21:15 -0400
Message-ID<iqsi6l$8l1$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#4178
On 05/16/2011 07:06 PM, red floyd wrote:
> On May 16, 10:22 am, Lew<no...@lewscanon.com>  wrote:
>> Fred Zwarts wrote:
>>
>> Joe Snodgrass wrote ...
>>
>>>> Nslookup gives you the ability to change your DNS server, but how do
>>>> you find out what other DNS servers are available? TIA.
>>> Why posting in these newsgroups? I don't understand the relation with C++,
>>> php, or java [sic].
>>
>> Really?  You never have to diagnose or influence deployment issues as a
>> programmer?  Does your favorite programming language exist in a vacuum where
>> computers and networks and DNS servers have no relevance?
>>
>
> I wanted to know how an internal combustion engine works, and I knew
> my baker
> drives a car, so I asked him instead of a mechanic.

A poetic or self-evaluatedly clever riposte is fairly useless if it doesn't 
somehow embody a relevant point.  We aren't asking a baker about internal 
combustion engines' function, we're asking a baker if they have 
recommendations for a good oven.

If you fancy yourself a professional programmer, you had better have some 
understanding of how to get your program to run in the real world.  Nor clever 
(as you think) retorts, nor labored and inapplicable analogies will save your 
software.  Knowing how to set a DNS server might.  The question is entirely on 
topic for clj.programmer.  (Note the emphasis on programmer - it's for people 
who want results, not fanboys for labored or spaghetti languages.)

Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question 
seriously, please feel free to do so.  I apologize that I do not know how to 
answer your question, but I support your right to ask it.  At least among us 
practical-minded folk.

-- 
Lew
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg

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#4242

Frombugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim>
Date2011-05-18 09:38 +0100
Message-ID<2pydnQEfsN0cGE7QnZ2dnUVZ8g-dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
In reply to#4183
Lew wrote:

> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question
> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how
> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least
> among us practical-minded folk.
>

One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following your "logic"

  BugBear

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#4264

FromLew <noone@lewscanon.com>
Date2011-05-18 13:13 -0400
Message-ID<ir0umq$gtk$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#4242
On 05/18/2011 04:38 AM, bugbear wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>
>> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question
>> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how
>> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least
>> among us practical-minded folk.
>>
>
> One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following your "logic"

I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow programmers.  I 
believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that you're being 
insufficiently helpful.  Shame on you if true, because that means you want to 
enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help.  That would be such a 
character flaw and earn a person a degree of contempt.

-- 
Lew
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg

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#4269

FromMichael Doubez <michael.doubez@free.fr>
Date2011-05-18 14:26 -0700
Message-ID<d7b5eab2-7bf9-4dfa-9246-e3c259c69dc4@v10g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>
In reply to#4264
On 18 mai, 19:13, Lew <no...@lewscanon.com> wrote:
> On 05/18/2011 04:38 AM, bugbear wrote:
>
> > Lew wrote:
>
> >> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question
> >> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how
> >> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least
> >> among us practical-minded folk.
>
> > One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following your "logic"
>
> I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow programmers.  I
> believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that you're being
> insufficiently helpful.  Shame on you if true, because that means you want to
> enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help.  

Argumentum ad misericordiam

The reason why the people here are so helpful and the group is still
alive is because some people do care enough to keep the discussions on
topic.

If it wasn't the case you wouldn't be able to ask your question here
because everybody would be too busy chatting and exchanging reciepes.
You would then have to ask elsewhere, which is exactely what the OP is
invited to do.

--
Michael

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#4270

FromLew <noone@lewscanon.com>
Date2011-05-18 18:26 -0400
Message-ID<ir1h20$q1o$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#4269
Michael Doubez wrote:
> Lew wrote:
>> bugbear wrote:
>>> Lew wrote:
>>>> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question
>>>> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how
>>>> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least
>>>> among us practical-minded folk.
>>
>>> One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following your "logic"
>>
>> I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow programmers.  I
>> believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that you're being
>> insufficiently helpful.  Shame on you if true, because that means you want to
>> enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help.
>
> Argumentum ad misericordiam

Misidentification of fallacy.  I'd already made the point that it's relevant 
to one of the groups to which the OP posted, namely clj.programmer.  The 
"programmer" part of that means that it's not about the language as such, but 
the skills needed to use it effectively.  I had argued that the question is 
relevant there.  The appeal to sympathy is to show that the line was being 
drawn arbitrarily fine.  Nowhere am I suggesting that the discussion veer from 
the subject of the newsgroup,  I only suggest that people not be such 
namby-pamby nitpickers and be so doggedly exclusionary.

So while you show off your Latin quite nicely, it's irrelevant.

> The reason why the people here are so helpful and the group is still
> alive is because some people do care enough to keep the discussions on
> topic.

I don't know where your "here" is, but in this thread I'm arguing against the 
people who are NOT being "so helpful".

> If it wasn't the case you wouldn't be able to ask your question here
> because everybody would be too busy chatting and exchanging reciepes.
> You would then have to ask elsewhere, which is exactely what the OP is
> invited to do.

And also the OP is being invited EXACTLY to continue to post "here" for one 
value of "here".  You unsympathetic so-and-so.  (Ad hominem - in case you want 
to show off more Latin.)

-- 
Lew
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg

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#4275

Fromthingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m>
Date2011-05-19 01:27 -0400
Message-ID<ir29nt$mag$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#4270
On 18/05/2011 6:26 PM, Lew wrote:
2> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

2> Michael Doubez wrote:
2>> Argumentum ad misericordiam

Argumentum ad listoffallaciesum.

2> Misidentification of fallacy.

Classic pontification.

2> I'd already made the point that it's
2> relevant to one of the groups to which the OP posted, namely
2> clj.programmer.

Classic erroneous presupposition. Besides which, that still does not 
essay its relevance to either of the other two newsgroups -- nor the 
relevance of your own post to any of the three.

2> The "programmer" part of that means that it's not about
2> the language as such, but the skills needed to use it effectively.

Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. I think most of us here 
expect traffic to be on the topic of Java, or at the very least the JVM.

2> I had argued that the question is relevant there.

What does your argument have to do with C++ or PHP, Lew?

2> The appeal to sympathy is to show that the line was being drawn
2> arbitrarily fine.

What does your appeal to sympathy have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lew?

2> Nowhere am I suggesting that the discussion veer from the subject
2> of the newsgroup,

Since the subject of the newsgroup is Java, your statement is erroneous.

2> I only suggest that people not be such namby-pamby nitpickers and be
2> so doggedly exclusionary.

Classic erroneous presupposition.

2> So while you show off your Latin quite nicely, it's irrelevant.

How ironic.

2> I don't know where your "here" is, but in this thread I'm arguing
2> against the people who are NOT being "so helpful".

How ironic.

2>> If it wasn't the case you wouldn't be able to ask your question here
2>> because everybody would be too busy chatting and exchanging reciepes.

Classic slippery slope fallacy. You can add that to your collection of 
fallacies, if it isn't already there.

2> And also the OP is being invited EXACTLY to continue to post "here" for
2> one value of "here".

By one person, Lew. And he's crossposting to two other groups, Lew.

2> You unsympathetic so-and-so.

Who is "You unsympathetic so-and-so", Lew? There is nobody in this 
newsgroup using that alias.

2> (Ad hominem - in case you want to show off more Latin.)

What does your Latin have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lew?

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#4282

FromThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Date2011-05-19 10:01 +0200
Message-ID<1905066.XAFRqVoOGU@PointedEars.de>
In reply to#4275
thingamabob wrote:

> On 18/05/2011 6:26 PM, Lew wrote:
> 2> The "programmer" part of that means that it's not about
> 2> the language as such, but the skills needed to use it effectively.
> 
> Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim. I think most of us here
> expect traffic to be on the topic of Java, or at the very least the JVM.

Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition yourself 
there.  For whether your argument makes sense in the first place depends on 
where "here" is.  You have posted to *three* newsgroups, only one where Java 
is on-topic.  (I am reading this in comp.lang.php.)

Please consider the Followup-To comp.lang.php in this posting (or ignore it 
and include another suitable newsgroup [about logic?] in the Newsgroups list 
and set Followup-To to it, or do not post a follow-up to this at all) and 
stop doing that.  All of you.  TIA.
 

PointedEars
-- 
Danny Goodman's books are out of date and teach practices that are
positively harmful for cross-browser scripting.
 -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <cife6q$253$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk> (2004)

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#4301

Fromthingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m>
Date2011-05-19 12:40 -0400
Message-ID<ir3h51$qgo$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#4282
On 19/05/2011 4:01 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

1> Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition 
yourself
1> there.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do 
with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?

1> For whether your argument makes sense in the first place depends on
1> where "here" is.

The context of my remark was clearly Lew's statement regarding what 
topics are expected in comp.lang.java.programmer, Lahn. Suffering from 
reading comprehension problems, Lahn?

1> You have posted to *three* newsgroups, only one where Java
1> is on-topic.

Classic pontification.

1> (I am reading this in comp.lang.php.)

What does that have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?

> Please consider the Followup-To comp.lang.php in this posting (or ignore it
> and include another suitable newsgroup [about logic?] in the Newsgroups list
> and set Followup-To to it, or do not post a follow-up to this at all) and
> stop doing that.  All of you.  TIA.

What does your request have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?

> PointedEars

What does that have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?

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#4303

Fromdougatmilmacdotcom@example.com (Doug Miller)
Date2011-05-19 17:15 +0000
Message-ID<ir3j8d$ael$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4301
In article <ir3h51$qgo$1@speranza.aioe.org>, thingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m> wrote:
>On 19/05/2011 4:01 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer
>
>1> Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition 
>yourself
>1> there.
>
>What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do 
>with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
[snippo]

Please don't feed the trolls.

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#4305

Fromthingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m>
Date2011-05-19 13:25 -0400
Message-ID<ir3jpo$3pb$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#4303
On 19/05/2011 1:15 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

1> [snippo]

What does that have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Miller?

1> Please don't feed the trolls.

What does your unsubstantiated claim regarding Lahn have to do with C++, 
PHP, or Java, Miller?

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#4308

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2011-05-19 13:45 -0400
Message-ID<ir3kvt$q5m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4301
On 5/19/2011 12:40 PM, thingamabob wrote:
> On 19/05/2011 4:01 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> 1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer
>
> 1> Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition
> yourself
> 1> there.
>
> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
> with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
>
> 1> For whether your argument makes sense in the first place depends on
> 1> where "here" is.
>
> The context of my remark was clearly Lew's statement regarding what
> topics are expected in comp.lang.java.programmer, Lahn. Suffering from
> reading comprehension problems, Lahn?
>
> 1> You have posted to *three* newsgroups, only one where Java
> 1> is on-topic.
>
> Classic pontification.
>
> 1> (I am reading this in comp.lang.php.)
>
> What does that have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>
>> Please consider the Followup-To comp.lang.php in this posting (or
>> ignore it
>> and include another suitable newsgroup [about logic?] in the
>> Newsgroups list
>> and set Followup-To to it, or do not post a follow-up to this at all) and
>> stop doing that. All of you. TIA.
>
> What does your request have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>
>> PointedEars
>
> What does that have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?

Don't worry about him - he's a well-known troll in several newsgroups. 
He never does have anything of substance to add.  If he didn't troll he 
wouldn't be able to post.

-- 
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
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#4310

Fromthingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m>
Date2011-05-19 14:04 -0400
Message-ID<ir3m2l$9mc$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#4308
On 19/05/2011 1:45 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

1> Don't worry about him - he's a well-known troll in several newsgroups.

What does Lahn's trolling have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Stuckle?

1> He never does have anything of substance to add.

What does your unsubstantiated claim have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, 
Stuckle?

1> If he didn't troll he wouldn't be able to post.

What does your unsubstantiated claim have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, 
Stuckle?

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#4313

Fromdougatmilmacdotcom@example.com (Doug Miller)
Date2011-05-19 18:31 +0000
Message-ID<ir3nmu$dch$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4308
In article <ir3kvt$q5m$1@dont-email.me>, Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>On 5/19/2011 12:40 PM, thingamabob wrote:
>> On 19/05/2011 4:01 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> 1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer
>>
>> 1> Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition
>> yourself
>> 1> there.
>>
>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
>> with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
>>
>> 1> For whether your argument makes sense in the first place depends on
>> 1> where "here" is.
>>
>> The context of my remark was clearly Lew's statement regarding what
>> topics are expected in comp.lang.java.programmer, Lahn. Suffering from
>> reading comprehension problems, Lahn?
>>
>> 1> You have posted to *three* newsgroups, only one where Java
>> 1> is on-topic.
>>
>> Classic pontification.
>>
>> 1> (I am reading this in comp.lang.php.)
>>
>> What does that have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>>
>>> Please consider the Followup-To comp.lang.php in this posting (or
>>> ignore it
>>> and include another suitable newsgroup [about logic?] in the
>>> Newsgroups list
>>> and set Followup-To to it, or do not post a follow-up to this at all) and
>>> stop doing that. All of you. TIA.
>>
>> What does your request have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>>
>>> PointedEars
>>
>> What does that have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
>
>Don't worry about him - he's a well-known troll in several newsgroups. 
>He never does have anything of substance to add.  If he didn't troll he 
>wouldn't be able to post.
>
"thingamabob" is clearly a troll also -- please don't feed them.

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#4314

Fromthingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m>
Date2011-05-19 14:45 -0400
Message-ID<ir3oh3$ff5$6@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#4313
On 19/05/2011 2:31 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
2> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

2> "thingamabob" is clearly a troll also

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do 
with C++, PHP, or Java, Miller?

2> -- please don't feed them.

What does your request-and-classic-erroneous-presupposition combo have 
to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Miller?

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#4326

FromJerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Date2011-05-19 21:43 -0400
Message-ID<ir4h0l$gj0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4313
On 5/19/2011 2:31 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> In article<ir3kvt$q5m$1@dont-email.me>, Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net>  wrote:
>> On 5/19/2011 12:40 PM, thingamabob wrote:
>>> On 19/05/2011 4:01 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>> 1>  Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer
>>>
>>> 1>  Your other points aside, you are making an erroneous presupposition
>>> yourself
>>> 1>  there.
>>>
>>> What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
>>> with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
>>>
>>> 1>  For whether your argument makes sense in the first place depends on
>>> 1>  where "here" is.
>>>
>>> The context of my remark was clearly Lew's statement regarding what
>>> topics are expected in comp.lang.java.programmer, Lahn. Suffering from
>>> reading comprehension problems, Lahn?
>>>
>>> 1>  You have posted to *three* newsgroups, only one where Java
>>> 1>  is on-topic.
>>>
>>> Classic pontification.
>>>
>>> 1>  (I am reading this in comp.lang.php.)
>>>
>>> What does that have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>>>
>>>> Please consider the Followup-To comp.lang.php in this posting (or
>>>> ignore it
>>>> and include another suitable newsgroup [about logic?] in the
>>>> Newsgroups list
>>>> and set Followup-To to it, or do not post a follow-up to this at all) and
>>>> stop doing that. All of you. TIA.
>>>
>>> What does your request have to do with C++ or Java, Lahn?
>>>
>>>> PointedEars
>>>
>>> What does that have to do with C++, PHP, or Java, Lahn?
>>
>> Don't worry about him - he's a well-known troll in several newsgroups.
>> He never does have anything of substance to add.  If he didn't troll he
>> wouldn't be able to post.
>>
> "thingamabob" is clearly a troll also -- please don't feed them.

Yup, obviously, Doug.  Unfortunately, I made the mistake of trying to 
treat him like a human.


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#4334

Fromthingamabob <thingamabob117@gmai1.c0m>
Date2011-05-20 00:07 -0400
Message-ID<ir4pel$rtt$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#4326
On 19/05/2011 9:43 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
2> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer

2>> "thingamabob" is clearly a troll also -- please don't feed them.
2>
2> Yup, obviously, Doug.

In what way can Miller's classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim 
*possibly* be classified as "obvious"?!

2> Unfortunately, I made the mistake of trying to treat him like a
2> human.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with C++, 
PHP, or Java, Stuckle?

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